KKK/TBH will get two SS titles in Europe.
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I heard that LYD paired with Cho and won National games.....
so LYD's arm should have been okay....if LYD's arm is not healed and still winning national games, then MD Korea must be very very bad....they could not beat ONE ARM player....
Have you watched the games? If you saw the game quality you can't tell like that.
FYI, LYD had a bunch of tapping all around his arm, showing not good performance from my viewpoint of BWF international standards. He can't not play his 100% in confidence.
The JPN pair is a fast-growing team, having beaten KKK/TBH dominantly recently. I always go based on the previous outcomes.
Enjoy~
many pair can beat koo/tan dominantly
remember the famous defeat to wr 76th pair that dato always say?
simonlovers
Regular Member
The JPN pair is a fast-growing team, having beaten KKK/TBH dominantly recently. I always go based on the previous outcomes.
Enjoy~
u cant make a prediction with that fact..
Kido/Setiawan are not KKK/TBH
you cant use your logic
if KKK/TBH win so many times againts MK/HS
and JPN pair win over KKK/TBH
conclusion : JPN pair will win over MK/HS
NOT VALID !!!!!!
u cant make a prediction with that fact..
Kido/Setiawan are not KKK/TBH
you cant use your logic
if KKK/TBH win so many times againts MK/HS
and JPN pair win over KKK/TBH
conclusion : JPN pair will win over MK/HS
NOT VALID !!!!!!
Well said Simonlovers, the real statistic expert
eaglehelang
Regular Member
There're many variables to consider, just for 1 pair. Just our narnia not familiar with Msian players trends and the many variables connected to it.
Hahaha, stats shows "Consistency".
As MK/HS beat one team in the Top 6 and KKK/TBH also beat one team, their rankings will change just marginal.
whack_d_net
Regular Member
I know, that's why i asked your opinion back then
You show us good point, hope all can learn something from it
don't worry simonlovers.. i will not blame statistics, although i'm not statistician, but i do work using statistics (although not expert till now...maybe u should teach me..
..)but in this case, for example: he cant say only based on a few statistics results (like based on 2 previous results of 3K/TBH vs danes). i think u know better that to make it significant, will need more than a few references..
enjoy..
u cant make a prediction with that fact..
Kido/Setiawan are not KKK/TBH
you cant use your logic
if KKK/TBH win so many times againts MK/HS
and JPN pair win over KKK/TBH
conclusion : JPN pair will win over MK/HS
NOT VALID !!!!!!
Good point. I'm trying to say on stats, and stats cannot tell everything perfectly as you know. So, I gather as many info as I can. The missing point in this prediction was I didn't know how much Kido's knee has been healed. That was just okay.
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Jagdpanther
Regular Member
Very well said.u cant make a prediction with that fact..
Kido/Setiawan are not KKK/TBH
you cant use your logic
if KKK/TBH win so many times againts MK/HS
and JPN pair win over KKK/TBH
conclusion : JPN pair will win over MK/HS
NOT VALID !!!!!!
More, this words come from a real statistician.
I have nothing more to say.
My shootings end here... Maybe.
*fingers crossed*
simonlovers
Regular Member
don't worry simonlovers.. i will not blame statistics, although i'm not statistician, but i do work using statistics (although not expert till now...maybe u should teach me..
but in this case, for example: he cant say only based on a few statistics results (like based on 2 previous results of 3K/TBH vs danes). i think u know better that to make it significant, will need more than a few references..
enjoy..
our prediction more valid if we get more informations..
Head to Head, ranking are some variables that can help us to predict who will win or not.
you can predict 100% correct if you have all informations(variables) which will influence the match...but, our knowledge and the fact are limited.
Only God have all information.
Good point. I'm trying to say on stats, and stats cannot tell everything perfectly as you know. So, I gather as many info as I can. The missing point in this prediction was I didn't know how much Kido's knee has been healed. That was just okay.
huangkwokhau
Regular Member
Nope..based on what your say that Korea MDs are in bad shape then as they could not even beat the injured LYD especially with one arm......Have you watched the games? If you saw the game quality you can't tell like that.
FYI, LYD had a bunch of tapping all around his arm, showing not good performance from my viewpoint of BWF international standards. He can't not play his 100% in confidence.
..if LYD is not fully recovered why Korea sends him to compete to next 2 SS??? this does not make sense then LYD will play 2 events, MD and XD....it is not logic....he should take a rest and recover his arms, IMO...he shsould not compete in highest level if he is still injured...Enjoy!!
For this French Open, actually my prediction was correct in two major things;
1. KKK/TBH advanced to the Final to get a chance of winning the title.
2. Taufik advanced to the Final as I predicted.
Enjoy~
Nope..based on what your say that Korea MDs are in bad shape then as they could not even beat the injured LYD especially with one arm......
Enjoy!!
Errr....who exactly are the KOR MDs besides LYD/JJS??? That's pretty much the entire KOR MD squad and that would explain why the rest of KOR MD pairs can't beat a one armed LYD.
Nope..based on what your say that Korea MDs are in bad shape then as they could not even beat the injured LYD especially with one arm......
Enjoy!!
I didn't say his arm is not fully recovered. I talked about his playing quality now. He did have a quite long break and did not have much time for practice, not even partnering with JJS. Especially what I concern is that he has been off from the international games, that's the essential for the "top" players.
Enjoy~
Errr....who exactly are the KOR MDs besides LYD/JJS??? That's pretty much the entire KOR MD squad and that would explain why the rest of KOR MD pairs can't beat a one armed LYD.
Yeah, right in part. But the teams in this Tourney were not the same as you saw in the international games, they played representing their own home towns. LYD/Cho GW is a quite old partnership from their elementary school days, i.e., in the same home town, up to now in Samsung Squad. They deserve the title as the World Junior Champ.
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Good point. I'm trying to say on stats, and stats cannot tell everything perfectly as you know. So, I gather as many info as I can. The missing point in this prediction was I didn't know how much Kido's knee has been healed. That was just okay.
actually
u only lack of one thing
match watching of All the pair
Ow.. so this is the threadGood point. I'm trying to say on stats, and stats cannot tell everything perfectly as you know. So, I gather as many info as I can. The missing point in this prediction was I didn't know how much Kido's knee has been healed. That was just okay.
Anyway, I think the biggest mistake is to predict MK/HS to lose from JAP pairs based on only that they dominated KKK/TBH and stats told us that KKK/TBH dominate MK/HS.
MK/HS reach SF in Denmark open, it should tell you enough about Kido condition. Their result against Boe/Mogensen is nothing really much to do with injury IMHO. He's fit although may not be 100%.
But, predicting relatively unknown JAP pairs (and no stats against MK/HS) to dominate MK/HS is BIG ZERO to statistic. You can't use other players statistic to predict another.
The rest of your prediction is ok.
Ow.. so this is the thread
Anyway, I think the biggest mistake is to predict MK/HS to lose from JAP pairs based on only that they dominated KKK/TBH and stats told us that KKK/TBH dominate MK/HS.
MK/HS reach SF in Denmark open, it should tell you enough about Kido condition. Their result against Boe/Mogensen is nothing really much to do with injury IMHO. He's fit although may not be 100%.
But, predicting relatively unknown JAP pairs (and no stats against MK/HS) to dominate MK/HS is BIG ZERO to statistic. You can't use other players statistic to predict another.
The rest of your prediction is ok.
Right, thanks for your note based on some facts. But I suspect you're missing something about my prediction; please read my other messages here.
Stats is Stats; it can't tell 100% as you know well. MK/HS can beat another top team even with just 1% of winning percentage.
But Stats is useful because at least it says about "consistency."
Enjoy~