I think people are forgetting why IBF is looking at changing the scoring system. Objectives of a new scoring system: (1) Produce more critical points and hence more exciting matches, thus improving appeal on TV and to spectators (2) Create new interest in the game (3) Reduce most match lengths compared to the present system, reducing physical demands (slightly less pressure on players) and reducing TV and potentially spectator session lengths (4) Offer more opportunities for TV to have commercial and in-depth analysis breaks during a match Produce a system that spectators find easier to follow IMHO the bottom line is to attract TV viewers & sponsors. If these changes are the tip of the iceberg that finally creates the $1,000,000 - $15,000,000 purse money, would you still stick to 3x15 point system? Interms of (3) I would think it would challenge the players more since there are a finite number of serves/rallies... 1) players must play safer shots with longer rallies 2) expend more energy per rally/set Cheers!
Is there any guarantee that changing the scoring format (again ) will attract more sponsors and viewers?? Changing for the sake of changing, and not at least knowing what to expect just makes it confusing not only to coaches/players who need to adapt to new systems (technically and physically) but also to spectators. There are people still asking for deuce when reaching 13 all in doubles. I see many people playing badminton with great interest. Most of them book courts weekly on regular basis to play and have their own groups of players. Interestingly enough, many participate in tournaments but never seen them watching any badminton or tournament videos either. Why? If IBF is able to make these people go to watch the tournaments or watch them on TV they would have any reason to complain.
shorter scoring failed before..remeber the world-top Men's double? 10 minutes at most... and why the f*ck do they want to lower the scoring so that you don't need that much endurance...that's really, really dumb...why not shorten a marathon? badminton IS exciting, it's shorter, and more explosive than Tennis..it tops almost ALL sports in specatcle.. the problem is not teh game, it's the public..people just don't know what badminton is..and when it's on TV people can't follow it. there should be more, and more experienced cameramen...not making live shows. but cutting and pasting too make it a spectacle..
I'm voting for the new scoring. It would be easier to would tire my oppnonent in a game. Also, I have more time to find weakpoints in my opponent's style.
Errrr...how would the new scoring tire out your opponent more/faster? The games would be much faster if every serve scored a point regardless of who's serving. Am I missing something here? If so, please enlighten, thanks.
Okay, that one I did not read about. My mistake If that is the case, I'd vote for the old system. At least the sport will be unique among the other racquet sports.
News I remember reading a day or two ago that as far as the experimentation is concerned, Asia will be trying the 21x3 format and European countries have been asked by the IBF to experiment with the 11x5 system.I think these experiments are first to be tested domestically[nationally] before they are tried in Grand Prix tourneys.so i dont think there should be any changes in the scoring for the Denmark Open this month. As far as India is concerned the 21x3 scoring is aldready being tried in the state and national events. So has the 11x5 scoring being tried yet in European Nations in the domestic events?Could somebody give the feedback on this?
Just look at squash, it went from service point to rally point. Did it produce more critical points - No Did it create new interest in the game - Can't really see that Did it reduce most match lengths - Not at the elite level ( of course, squash has 'let', badminton doesn't ) Did it reduce physical demand - Definitely not. Everybody knows this is a joke from those who don't play badminton, at least not seriously. Which sport would want to be labelled as one that doesn't require its players to be at their top form giving out all they have? May be those sitting in the IBF office want to ... Did it produce a system easier to follow - May be. But most at the club level or play for fun still play service point
received yesterday from a french badminton webzine (www.badzine.info): " Selon l'Agence de Presse Xinhua, dans un communiqué de ce 27 octobre, la Fédération Internationale aurait opté pour un nouveau système de scoring , dès le mois de décembre prochain, et à valoir pour le début de l'année 2006 sur les compétitions internationales. Article : Raphael Sachetat Cela pendait au nez du badminton depuis quelques temps. Selon un haut responsable du badminton Chinois cité par l'Agence Officielle Chinoise Xinhua, l'IBF serait donc sur le point d'officialiser le changement de scoring, pour un format en trois sets de 21 points (deux sets gagnants), avec point marqué quelque soit le serveur, et quelque soit la catégorie. D'après les calculs de l'IBF sur les statistiques menées jusqu'à présent, cela réduirait le temps de match en moyenne d'environ un tiers. Reste à attendre l'annonce officielle émanant de l'IBF pour ce changement de scoring, qui devrait, dans la foulée, impliquer un changement vraisemblable en France. Badzine se fera l'échos des commentaires des représenants français une fois l'annonce faite de manière officielle." For those who can't speak french, in short: IBF is probably going to officialize the new scoring system (3x21) :crying:. It should be done for next december, and applied in international events in 2006.
I absolutely agree with you. Volleyball and Table tennis change for the same reasons since the Olympic 2000 in Sydney. At that time Badminton also to 5x7 points. And still no increase in TV coverages both Volleyball, Tabletennis and Badminton. If anything, it should be 1 to 30 points with no setting and normal service rules, change over at 15 points, game will only to 21 if opponent can't get more than 10 points.
I like the old system better - I think it is an easier system for a player to stage a comeback, which I think makes good viewing. Slightly off topic here: I agree with the point someone made earlier that to increase TV coverage, the filming needs to be addressed. Tennis matches look much more exciting on TV than badminton matches, but in real life, they're both exciting to watch. It's very difficult for non-badminton players to get a sense the speed and agility involved from filmed badminton matches - the courts look small and easy to cover, and smashes don't seem that impressive.
UPDATED: 07:52, October 27, 2005 New scoring system to debut at Badminton World Cup 2005 The International Badminton Federation (IBF) will apply the new scoring system in the Badminton World Cup 2005 to be held in December at Yiyang, central China's Hunan Province. The new scoring system will come into effect in the World Cup, to be held from December 15-18, and will be applied to all the other international events starting from next year, China's State General Administration of Sport said at a press conference here on Wednesday. "The new rules will make matches faster and would also cut the duration of tournaments," said Liu Fengyan, director of the administration's Table Tennis & Badminton Administrative Center. Under the new system, each rally will be awarded a point, while the current system awards one point only to the serving player who wins a rally. The new rules also adopts a format of best-of-three games and a 21-point system for all the events. Currently, a winner is decided after 15 points for men's singles, men's and women's doubles and mixed doubles with 11 points for women's singles. "According to the IBF statistics, the new rules will shorten the duraton of the games by one third of time,"said Liu. The World Cup, with a total prizemoney of 250,000 US dollars on offer this year, will feature players ranked among the top 16 for men's singles, top 12 for women's singles, top eight for men's doubles and top six for both women's doubles and mixed doubles. Source: Xinhua
What has this got to do with the China State General Administration of Sport? They do not control badminton - or do they?
I don't think I can adapt to this new style of play. Serving is supposed to be sacred!(If you catch my drift)
Er, yes. That article says that China's State General Administration of Sport is announcing the change. The question is why is that organisation laying down the new law - why not the IBF?
