Boggieeiggob
Regular Member
Yup. Carl from this forum sourced it for me
Li Ning Halbertec 9000 - Jan 2024
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xZhongCheng
Regular Member
Has anyone tried this racket out? I have a feeling its coming to Canada soon and I am curious about how it compares to the 8000.
8000 is easier to use, closer to medium flex while the 9000 is hard stiff.
8000 is the better alternative imo.
pootisfoib
Regular Member
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It seems not many people have been writing reviews of this racket, so I thought I would. It is for the Halbertec 9000 4U w/SkyArc at 25. I have to say I have been pleasantly surprised by this racket, though it took me time to get used to it. (all 4U unless noted) I went from a NanoFlare 700 (I have purchased another recently and use on occasion), to Astrox 88D Pro after my first NF700 broke, then also tried NF800 Pro- which I did like, but just felt lacked something, especially in power so sold, then Thruster F Enhanced - which I enjoyed maybe for one day, but otherwise just couldn’t get along with, it never felt right and felt like it ate all of the power I put into my shots unless it was a clear, so I sold it. I got the new 3rd Gen Astrox 88D Pro in a raffle, and then on a recent trip to Japan I got the Halbertec 9000, Mizuno Fortius 11 Quick and Acrospeed 0. (while there I also used a OG 88D, Duora 10 (3U) and Gosen Ryoga Shiden (3U). I just give this as a reference for rackets I’ve owned and spent time with. It took me a bit to get along with the Halbertec, the lack of head weight and soft strings made it a bit difficult for me to really settle with it, I would play it 4-5x every week. Once I figured out the timing and feel of the racket I loved the speed and power I was able to get out of the Halbertec. I had to adjust my playing, which I never felt I had to do between 88D Pro and NF700 really (just timing), but the more even balance was a hard adjustment for me, and I hadn’t liked the Victor. I should note, I generally prefer a repulsive string Exbolt 65/68, Aerosonic, Mizuno 65R Smooth (which I had on the Mizuno rackets), but after injured my arm I went for the most forgiving string on at least one racket in my bag at all times, but have found that the SkyArc gets a bad rap, but I enjoy it more than BG 65 (and Ti), BG80 and about the same as Aerobite (and boost), which I do like but not as much as the ones I mentioned above. especially having dropped 2 lbs in tension I wasn’t not expecting much, but it was actually still a great feeling of control. It lacks some sound, but the control is still there, and while it doesn’t FEEL like the power is there on impact (it is a tad soft, but forgiving on the arm), the results would suggest there is no loss. Once used to this racket I feel only the most marginal of differences in rear court smash power vs the more head heavy Fortius 11 Quick and both 88D Pros, but a considerable increase in speed. I should also note that when using the Halbertec even though it felt like my smashes weren’t quite as powerful, opponents were more frequently commenting on the speed of my smash. Control and drops are great, clears are easy, it just works phenomenally well.
I originally thought I would sell this racket when I got back to US, but I think I have fallen for it enough to keep it in my bag and may become my main racket. I have Li Ning No 1 to put in it on restring since my elbow has almost completely healed, and I am really happy with this racket i tried on a lark. I love this slightly head heavy, fairly stiff Li Ning racket, it really transfers what I want incredibly well onto the shuttle.
I originally thought I would sell this racket when I got back to US, but I think I have fallen for it enough to keep it in my bag and may become my main racket. I have Li Ning No 1 to put in it on restring since my elbow has almost completely healed, and I am really happy with this racket i tried on a lark. I love this slightly head heavy, fairly stiff Li Ning racket, it really transfers what I want incredibly well onto the shuttle.
Alexious
Regular Member
have been using it for 3 months now
already use 3 strings (ultimax, aerobite boost, ex63) for my h9000
and ultimax is the worst for this racket, so i cut it after 2 weeks
ABB is very good if you have strong arm (i have the sharpest dropshot with this string)
but demands a lot to my arm, so i cut it and restring with xb63
feel good if you hit the sweet spot, but not very forgiving
before buying h9000 4U, i tried arc11p 4U with ABB string
i feel i can generate more power in h9000 than arc11p
maybe because of h9000 shaft that can be flex if we hit hard enough, and become stiff if we hit it softly
BUT
i feel i can control the shuttle easily with arc11p
i can do perfect crossnet easily everytime i do it
at the end of the day, i chose h9000 because i got much cheaper price than arc11p
already use 3 strings (ultimax, aerobite boost, ex63) for my h9000
and ultimax is the worst for this racket, so i cut it after 2 weeks
ABB is very good if you have strong arm (i have the sharpest dropshot with this string)
but demands a lot to my arm, so i cut it and restring with xb63
feel good if you hit the sweet spot, but not very forgiving
before buying h9000 4U, i tried arc11p 4U with ABB string
i feel i can generate more power in h9000 than arc11p
maybe because of h9000 shaft that can be flex if we hit hard enough, and become stiff if we hit it softly
BUT
i feel i can control the shuttle easily with arc11p
i can do perfect crossnet easily everytime i do it
at the end of the day, i chose h9000 because i got much cheaper price than arc11p
dave_todai
New Member
Hi, which store did you purchase the Halbertec racket from in Japan and how much did you pay if you don't mind me asking?
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Boggieeiggob
Regular Member
I haven't tried the 8000, and I'm not a particularly good player so take everything I say with a kamehameha of salt.
Mine is 4U, Exbolt 65 @ 12.4/13.4kg (google says that's 27.34lbs?). I've never really been a hard hitter, but for me I think this racket is suuuper forgiving to use. People say it feels really stiff but personally, I've felt the shaft flexing when I connect a hard shot *just* right. Shots generally go where I place them, I think I need to up the tension in my racket or something because I've been spraying more and more shots far out of the court lately. Frame feels fast; I usually win out the point when someone contests me with drives. Swings feel faster and smoother than the Arc 11pro (4U) I have, although control of the shuttle (imo) depends on the strings more than the frame but what do I know.
Shuttle House- Osaka. It was whatever price they list but I bought 2 rackets and clothing. So with the discount calculator you can approximate. I think with exchange rate it was definitely under $120.
Bieffe
Regular Member
Interesting. Usually LN high end rackets are not very price competitive. Yonex almost always gives a better price and value. Not to mention Yonex high end rackets are all Made In Japan. I'm from Singapore.
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The prices on Yonex have gone up, even in Japan, they are some of the most expensive. Mizuno, Gosen, Victor, LiNing all tend to be cheaper there than Yonex. Here in the US they’re often a bit more expensive than Victor, cheaper than LiNing and similar to Gosen and Mizuno
Bieffe
Regular Member
Tell me abt it. Even since covid, prices for all badminton have gone up easily by 25%. Especially shuttles? With each purchase I will be told price will be revised upwards so would I like to buy more now? Crazy crazy levels.
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Alexious
Regular Member
LN price is good, newest material and technologies, but they lack of advertisement
like, i wont know that halbertec is control racket like arc11p if i havent done my research
and the classify of LN products is confusing, they have too many names
halbertec, aeronout, axforce, tectonic, bladeX, etc
and oh, i just clashed my h9000 twice, it's really hard ones
but damn, there is no scratch at all
already check it more than 2 times and make my friend to check it again just to make sure that it has no chip
yonex SP code build quality is slighty worse than JP code
both were made in japan
but from my experience, the wood quality is different
Bieffe
Regular Member
LN marketing team is terrible very messy. After awhile too many models using similar names. Usually LN like to use the top end model names then add Lite and dunno what else to it making the already messy line up worst. I must say LN paint job and decals are very intricate. The worst guy is Victor. But I always end up with the decision issue...between these 2 and almost always end up with a Yonex
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I wanted to just follow up after a few more months of use. I had it restrung with Li-Ning No. 1 at 25 lbs, and while I loved the string fresh it haven’t loved it after about 5 weeks of play, but still good, not even close to breaking. The racket seems a little faster to the ArcSaber 11 Pros I’ve used, but I’d say they’re quite similar. The control with the racket feels really great, good power when needed at the back, not like the 88D Pro, but enough to put on pressure and hit clean well aimed winners. It is a little faster than the ArcSaber 11 Pro as well, fully recessed frame that isn’t as large as the ArcSaber. I think its a great option available to people, a slightly head heavy/even balanced control racket that still puts out power, but feels quicker than the other big options out there like this (I have only played about 3 minutes with the Victor DriveX 10, but this is my impression)
My main is 77Pro 4U, i have 100zz but too much for me to handle so i decided to let 100zz go and go for 3U even balance racket.
Do you still use the HBT 9000? Or should i just go for other rackets?
I ended up selling it. I bought an Astrox 77Pro to see if it was easier on my elbow, which it was, but now over a year after hurting it I’m playing only 1x every week and doing mostly PT, rowing and weight training. I end up on my 88D most days. I was trying to reduce the number of rackets I had, so I sold 3. But that’s the only one I miss, it had the power, but not as easily accessed as the 88D. I would say close to 77, slightly less, but control is better and speed is better. I may buy another when I go back to Japan this summer.
Does your elbow safe when using the 88D? I suppose the Gen3 is slightly softer than the Camel Gold one.
Did HBT 9000 make your elbow hurts more?
I have 3 choices, wether to get HBT 9000 3U or Arc11 Tour 3U or Astrox 88D Tour Gen3 4U.
The thing is, Arc11 Pro right now is so expensive, it costs around $180s in Indonesia for a brand new one, don't know why.
I might looking for second handed Arc11Pro 3U, but the brand new Tour is cheaper.
Bieffe
Regular Member
Sorry guys, I digress.
Actually the 88D pro is heavy in my opinion. That's after trying a 4U.
Shoulder hurting sometimes is not caused by a racket. I feel most of the time due to over enthusiasm.
You know when we all get a brand new racket, we enter the court with a new smile and looking to kill the opponent? We use brute force and want to kill at every chance? And we go home with a painful shoulder? I have this tendency last time then I keep reminding myself to tone done.
After this practice, my shoulder hurt less.
Another very important issue is tension. Don't go above 26lbs. This give us more leeway for errors. So we are less likely to force our strokes.
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Actually the 88D pro is heavy in my opinion. That's after trying a 4U.
Shoulder hurting sometimes is not caused by a racket. I feel most of the time due to over enthusiasm.
You know when we all get a brand new racket, we enter the court with a new smile and looking to kill the opponent? We use brute force and want to kill at every chance? And we go home with a painful shoulder? I have this tendency last time then I keep reminding myself to tone done.
After this practice, my shoulder hurt less.
Another very important issue is tension. Don't go above 26lbs. This give us more leeway for errors. So we are less likely to force our strokes.
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