Li Ning Rackets Fan Club :)

Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by tckang, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. Vivek Bagadhi

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    God!!! I might need to get this
     
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    Yuta Watanabe 9000C, RMB 2180

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    Looks almost like an Armortech frame...
     
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    I thought for a second that we were looking at tennis rackets.
     
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    Li Ning is claiming to use M40X carbon fiber from Toray of Japan. Not sure how high tensile and compressive strength effect playing parameters in badminton.

    https://cs2.toray.co.jp/news/toray/en/newsrrs02.nsf/0/123AEEFBA9609410492583430009633B?open

    I am starting to wonder if Namd etc that Yonex is claiming to use in Astroxes is also developed by some carbon fiber company, cause marketing of Yonex does a very good job in convincing as if Yonex had developed new material.
     
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    Of course it is. It requires a lot of expertise and experience to produce high class carbon fibre compounds - and Yonex is a sports goods company. And I remember there was some marketing info from Yonex following a new release, that they were also using some state-of-the art carbon from Toray. I just don't know where that post is hidden.

    Edit:
    Found it. It's in the Nanoflare 700 thread and -surprise- they are also using the Toray M40X:
    https://www.centralsports.co.uk/products/yonex-nanoflare700-blue-2019-badminton-racket
     
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    They said it since the beginning
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    food for thought, if the new li ning racket lines are using the same base materials as Astroxes, then basically you're just selectively picking between comparable li ning/yonex spec rackets based on color/visual eye candy
     
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    That’s not correct. The secret is how to actually design a racket. So how to weave the carbon prepregs and how to combine different materials to achieve the desired flex behaviour and feel. Also it’s crucial that the racket manufacturer has the right knowledge how to “bake” the carbon and what they add inside the structure of the frame to reduce vibrations and so on. The base material is only a small part in the whole picture that makes or breaks a racket.
     
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    I frequently bump into this point in chinese forums
    - Li Ning does hot air moulding, yonex does internal foaming etc (translation errors could be there),
    never fully understood those parts.
     
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    AXFORCE 80
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    Honestly, you don't have to. Just enjoy the end products and see which one you like best. It's the same with cars. All manufacturers are using the same materials and a lot of the same components to build them (more or less at least...). Still, in the end they all drive very differently.

    However, if you were unlucky enough and have destroyed a racket, it's interesting to have a look insinde the frame. You'll see that the hollow areas inside a Yonex frame are mostly filled with some kind of foam whereas Li-Nings are truly empty besides having some sort of foil covering the carbon. Both most likely to control vibrations.

    For example, here's how a N7II looks from the inside:
    https://www.badmintoncentral.com/fo...-rackets-fan-club.75225/page-262#post-2726187

    ...I've just realised that I'm still mourning that racket... :(
     
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    Nope. I’ve bought a white N7II afterwards (with measured specs very close to that black Setiawan signature one…) but never really clicked with it. The brain is the most powerful (and the most deceiving) muscle in the human body.
     
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    Wait, are they producing new ones?
     
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    Chen Long on having to wear yonex stuff.
     

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