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[Bieffe]

Li-Ning is probably the top durable. Victor's newer rackets have had some issues with handles coming loose or making weird clicking noises.
As for Yonex, it really depends on the model — some of their more performance-oriented frames are pretty fragile and prone to cracking.
Plus, Li-Ning's warranty claims usually go through way easier in my experience.

May I know which particular region u are citing the experience from? The quality issues, I some what agree. About breaking, all high end rackets will be fragile. As they take all engineering aspects to the limits to hit new boundaries. Not to mention cost cutting, achieving max stiffness with minimum materials.
Sorry I digress.
LN for me the issue is they have never spell out what an particular racket is used for. Hard for a social player to decide and therefore affecting they global presence. Their pricing is also an issue. LN always list rackets at high prices then when u pay there is huge discounts.
So my experience with them is far from pleasing.

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[NorthGuy]

I think the closest thing to the Astrox 88D pro would be the Axforce 100 gen 2.

First gen Ax100 felt like a friendlier Astrox 100zz from what I read. I used to play the Li-Ning racket but never tried the Astrox 100zz.
I owned 88D pro first and second gen (both 4U) and I now play with Axforce 100 gen 2 (4U). The racket really plays like a easier to use 88D pro 2nd gen (same specs but a bit faster and a bit flexier).

I was looking for a stiffer Ax90 Tiger (my go to racket) for the doubles and Ax100 gen 2 really is what I was looking for. Both rackets share similar shaft and handle length, similar head shape (Ax100 gen 2 being more rounded) and almost same BP (around 305). The first Ax100 gen was more difficult to play with (higher BP, stiffer, longer handle - same as 90 Dragon and Astrox 100zz - shorter shaft).

This new Axforce 100 is a great racket. It's on a stiff side but with a little bit flex that provides effortless shots, in the same way as the Bladex 900 Sun, another great racket from Li-Ning. It's like a perfect mix between Ax90 Tiger and As88D pro 2nd gen.

Have you ever used the TKFE or any of the 90K series??
I have been using these rackets and looking for a change. I am intrigued by this new 100 Gen 2. Seems like it may be something in between the TKFE and 90k

 

[Mickaël]

Have you ever used the TKFE or any of the 90K series??
I have been using these rackets and looking for a change. I am intrigued by this new 100 Gen 2. Seems like it may be something in between the TKFE and 90k

Nope. From what I heard, Ax100 gen 2 should be in the 88d pro / TKFE's league: stiff, slightly head-heavy, thin shaft.
I think 90k might me less head heavy though.

 

[regol_a]

Li-Ning is probably the top durable. Victor's newer rackets have had some issues with handles coming loose or making weird clicking noises.
As for Yonex, it really depends on the model — some of their more performance-oriented frames are pretty fragile and prone to cracking.
Plus, Li-Ning's warranty claims usually go through way easier in my experience.

Much appreciate the reply.
I did hear a lot about Victor racket quality and its bad most of the time. It is kind of annoying, considering their prices, that the quality even for the highend is questionable.
I'm hoping not to change from li ning for awhile. But lining prices in Europe is great.

 

[regol_a]

Much appreciate the reply.
I did hear a lot about Victor racket quality and its bad most of the time. It is kind of annoying, considering their prices, that the quality even for the highend is questionable.
I'm hoping not to change from li ning for awhile. But lining prices in Europe isnot great.

 

[NorthGuy]

Nope. From what I heard, Ax100 gen 2 should be in the 88d pro / TKFE's league: stiff, slightly head-heavy, thin shaft.
I think 90k might me less head heavy though.

Interesting. I am trying to find a Lining alternative. I love my Victor rackets. Never had an issue like anyone else. Never had a fault or problem with a single one.

That said, lining rackets just look so much better. Such a better paint job and the look of them screams quality.

 

[Ludwik]

I couldn’t resist the temptation—it was on sale during 12.12, and it finally arrived. I had it strung right away with N68 at 27x29 lbs, and honestly, it looks even better in person.

With my usual setup of four layers of cushion wrap plus a Super Grap, the 3U version actually feels pretty even balanced in hand. I’ll be taking it on court tomorrow to see how it plays. Looking forward to it.

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[RatedRzz]

Nope. From what I heard, Ax100 gen 2 should be in the 88d pro / TKFE's league: stiff, slightly head-heavy, thin shaft.
I think 90k might me less head heavy though.

I haven't tried the 90km yet. I do own a tkfe se but only used it once, it's strictly a md racket
As a ms player, I don't gel with that elongated frame. Compared to my main stick like ax 99 pro gen2, the tkfe swings way too fast. Just not willing to adapt to it.

 

[ehGolden]

Hey Li-Ning players, I play men's singles and use the AxForce 90 Max Tiger in 3U, im looking to upgrade to the newest gen of Li-Ning rackets.

I find the 90 Tiger to be effective and versatile at generating power in overhead play and that was enough for me to main it despite finding it a little difficult on defense at times, the hitting feel is also not the best, in terms of how demanding it is: physically its fine to me as an attacking player but technically the narrow hitting zone is abit of a challenge at times (im getting better at dealing with it tho). I also have the Halbertec 9000 in 3U and find it hard to generate power with the soft head, at the same time i find the stiffer shaft more enjoyable in feel compared to the tiger, the control is exceptionnal also, im at my limit with it in terms of stiffness, not sure i can handler stiffer than 9000 yet...

I was initialy going to be upgrading to the 90 new 3U since its apparently a "better tiger" as in its also good at generating easy power for all kinds of overhead hits and the better materials seem to make it more enjoyable in feeling. However im tempted to move on to something abit stiffer than the Tiger and perhaps a little better at full smashing, in that idea i wonder if the 9000 power or 100 gen 2 are more worthwhile upgrades from the Tiger, im worried about them being too technically demanding, taking the 4U for one of them is also an option to compensate abit, while i dont see any reason to pick less than 3U for the 90 new...

So, two main goals: abit more power in full smash if possible (if not, at least not less) and more importantly better feel, im wondering what to pick from:
-90 New 3U
-100 Gen 2 3U or 4U
-9000 Power 3U or 4U

I appreciate any opinion on this, thanks.

 

[Budi]

Hey Li-Ning players, I play men's singles and use the AxForce 90 Max Tiger in 3U, im looking to upgrade to the newest gen of Li-Ning rackets.

I find the 90 Tiger to be effective and versatile at generating power in overhead play and that was enough for me to main it despite finding it a little difficult on defense at times, the hitting feel is also not the best, in terms of how demanding it is: physically its fine to me as an attacking player but technically the narrow hitting zone is abit of a challenge at times (im getting better at dealing with it tho). I also have the Halbertec 9000 in 3U and find it hard to generate power with the soft head, at the same time i find the stiffer shaft more enjoyable in feel compared to the tiger, the control is exceptionnal also, im at my limit with it in terms of stiffness, not sure i can handler stiffer than 9000 yet...

I was initialy going to be upgrading to the 90 new 3U since its apparently a "better tiger" as in its also good at generating easy power for all kinds of overhead hits and the better materials seem to make it more enjoyable in feeling. However im tempted to move on to something abit stiffer than the Tiger and perhaps a little better at full smashing, in that idea i wonder if the 9000 power or 100 gen 2 are more worthwhile upgrades from the Tiger, im worried about them being too technically demanding, taking the 4U for one of them is also an option to compensate abit, while i dont see any reason to pick less than 3U for the 90 new...

So, two main goals: abit more power in full smash if possible (if not, at least not less) and more importantly better feel, im wondering what to pick from:
-90 New 3U
-100 Gen 2 3U or 4U
-9000 Power 3U or 4U

I appreciate any opinion on this, thanks.

While im have not experience with those other racket. I play with Adidas Wucht P8 4U.
Having 100 gen 2 4U, my opinion is it was more of easy power than powerfull.
So, just take it as no more than pinch of salt.

 

[RatedRzz]

Hey Li-Ning players, I play men's singles and use the AxForce 90 Max Tiger in 3U, im looking to upgrade to the newest gen of Li-Ning rackets.

I find the 90 Tiger to be effective and versatile at generating power in overhead play and that was enough for me to main it despite finding it a little difficult on defense at times, the hitting feel is also not the best, in terms of how demanding it is: physically its fine to me as an attacking player but technically the narrow hitting zone is abit of a challenge at times (im getting better at dealing with it tho). I also have the Halbertec 9000 in 3U and find it hard to generate power with the soft head, at the same time i find the stiffer shaft more enjoyable in feel compared to the tiger, the control is exceptionnal also, im at my limit with it in terms of stiffness, not sure i can handler stiffer than 9000 yet...

I was initialy going to be upgrading to the 90 new 3U since its apparently a "better tiger" as in its also good at generating easy power for all kinds of overhead hits and the better materials seem to make it more enjoyable in feeling. However im tempted to move on to something abit stiffer than the Tiger and perhaps a little better at full smashing, in that idea i wonder if the 9000 power or 100 gen 2 are more worthwhile upgrades from the Tiger, im worried about them being too technically demanding, taking the 4U for one of them is also an option to compensate abit, while i dont see any reason to pick less than 3U for the 90 new...

So, two main goals: abit more power in full smash if possible (if not, at least not less) and more importantly better feel, im wondering what to pick from:
-90 New 3U
-100 Gen 2 3U or 4U
-9000 Power 3U or 4U

I appreciate any opinion on this, thanks.

Just wait another two months. I am certain that Li-Ning will release the Axforce 80 Gen 2, or an Axforce 80 New/Max (in any case, it will be a brand-new 80 model)

 

[ehGolden]

While im have not experience with those other racket. I play with Adidas Wucht P8 4U.
Having 100 gen 2 4U, my opinion is it was more of easy power than powerfull.
So, just take it as no more than pinch of salt.

Yes, im not expecting to match the top astrox models but to be fair power is abit of a difficult thing to talk about, it depends on the player's ability too. From what i read about the new 100, what you are saying seems to be the general impression most people have, i was thinking its a good mix of power and ease of access to power.

Just wait another two months. I am certain that Li-Ning will release the Axforce 80 Gen 2, or an Axforce 80 New/Max (in any case, it will be a brand-new 80 model)

I have not seen any models like that in the 2026 Li Ning Catalogue, the only new rackets yet to release that i can see are the BladeX 800 Power and Speed, i know they recently released an AxForce 80 Light but im not really the target audience for that, unfortunately i haven't tried the original 80, but given what im looking for im not sure going from 90 Tiger to 80 is relevant, i would get a probably softer shaft, all i would gain is that its easier to play, and i feel the tiger is getting easier for me to handle over time.

I know Li Ning is not always consistent with their models and that a lower "number" model can come out stiffer or unexpectedly better in some area than a higher number model, but if they do keep their AxForce Line consistent, why would a new axForce 80 be stiffer or more powerful than the 90 new ?

 

[RatedRzz]

Yes, im not expecting to match the top astrox models but to be fair power is abit of a difficult thing to talk about, it depends on the player's ability too. From what i read about the new 100, what you are saying seems to be the general impression most people have, i was thinking its a good mix of power and ease of access to power.


I have not seen any models like that in the 2026 Li Ning Catalogue, the only new rackets yet to release that i can see are the BladeX 800 Power and Speed, i know they recently released an AxForce 80 Light but im not really the target audience for that, unfortunately i haven't tried the original 80, but given what im looking for im not sure going from 90 Tiger to 80 is relevant, i would get a probably softer shaft, all i would gain is that its easier to play, and i feel the tiger is getting easier for me to handle over time.

I know Li Ning is not always consistent with their models and that a lower "number" model can come out stiffer or unexpectedly better in some area than a higher number model, but if they do keep their AxForce Line consistent, why would a new axForce 80 be stiffer or more powerful than the 90 new ?

I own every Axforce racket, so I can say this with confidence: the 90 New is a great racket, but it does not belong in this series
Its ultra-thin, rounded frame is totally different from the rest of the Axforce line. It’s designed for quick swings, consistency, and features a shorter handle. Sure, this makes it super accessible (which is why most amateurs love it), but it completely lacks that solid, heavy-hitting feel you get from the Axforce 90 Tiger or Dragon.

 

[ehGolden]

I own every Axforce racket, so I can say this with confidence: the 90 New is a great racket, but it does not belong in this series
Its ultra-thin, rounded frame is totally different from the rest of the Axforce line. It’s designed for quick swings, consistency, and features a shorter handle. Sure, this makes it super accessible (which is why most amateurs love it), but it completely lacks that solid, heavy-hitting feel you get from the Axforce 90 Tiger or Dragon.

Big thanks for the insights. The 90 New not really belonging in the AxForce series is something i can definitely notice from what im reading about it, your answer made me look around a little more about it, i just saw this specs youtube video claiming the racket is head light (294mm) in 4U. It seems more like it would fit the BladeX series.

I will try to pick something from the 100 gen 2 and 9000 power, not that clear to me, but the 9000 power is possibly stiffer than 9000 and likely the 100 gen II, so too stiff for me perhaps. Im leaning towards the 100 II so far, either 3U or 4U (tough to tell without actually holding the racket). This a bit of a longer term commit as i expect to play alot of tournaments from this spring to autumn, i don't want to change rackets in between.

 

[RatedRzz]

Big thanks for the insights. The 90 New not really belonging in the AxForce series is something i can definitely notice from what im reading about it, your answer made me look around a little more about it, i just saw this specs youtube video claiming the racket is head light (294mm) in 4U. It seems more like it would fit the BladeX series.

I will try to pick something from the 100 gen 2 and 9000 power, not that clear to me, but the 9000 power is possibly stiffer than 9000 and likely the 100 gen II, so too stiff for me perhaps. Im leaning towards the 100 II so far, either 3U or 4U (tough to tell without actually holding the racket). This a bit of a longer term commit as i expect to play alot of tournaments from this spring to autumn, i don't want to change rackets in between.

All my friends who bought the Halbertec 9000 Power seem disappointed; the marketing probably overhyped it. They mostly describe it as just a more offensive version of the Halbertec 8000.
II just put in a 2-hour session yesterday with the Axforce 100 Gen 2 4u. It reminds me of the 88D Pro with its excellent elasticity and balanced head weight. That said, for pure smashing, it feels less impressive than the 99 Pro Gen 2 or Ryuga m.

 

[ehGolden]

All my friends who bought the Halbertec 9000 Power seem disappointed; the marketing probably overhyped it. They mostly describe it as just a more offensive version of the Halbertec 8000.
II just put in a 2-hour session yesterday with the Axforce 100 Gen 2 4u. It reminds me of the 88D Pro with its excellent elasticity and balanced head weight. That said, for pure smashing, it feels less impressive than the 99 Pro Gen 2 or Ryuga m.

I tried the 99 pro gen 2 from a friend and i dont think i can exploit all the power it gives anyway, im looking for a mix of power and how easy that power is to access, however if we compare to Yonex which im a lot less familiar with, the 88D is the racket i find the most interesting from them for what im looking for (though i prefer how my li-ning rackets feel) and the 100 gen II being similar is a good thing.

Seems like the 100 II is my best bet in terms of power and stiffness, i'll pick up one when i get the chance, just need to decide on 3U or 4U, since im already used to 3U im leaning towards that so far, tough to say.

 

[frostcone]

Would the 100 II stiffness be closer to the 77 pro? I found the 88d pro gen3 and Axforce 100 gen1 a bit too stiff. I also tried Axforce 90new but it felt a bit soft and unstable. Would 100 II have this problem?

 

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[ehGolden]

Fair enough, a new AxForce 80 ? Still may be awhile before its available, im not on the chinese web enough to see these coming, i wonder if it will be drastically different from the old 80, at least Chen Long is still on the marketing .

 

[ganandoor56]

There are more informations on XiaoHongShu.

I saw that the bottom Cap is the red one



It looks pretty. I consider to buy it, but hope it will be the same as the OG