Li-Ning Singapore Open 2011

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  1. Loh

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    The Angony of Wang Lin

    Her recent comeback from injury to play in the Singapore Open did not make matters any better.

    In Round 2, Wang Lin had to play World No.1 and topseed Wang Shixian but when the score was 12-9 in the latter's favour, disaster struck. Wang Lin's left foot gave way and she fell to her knees, unable to get up.

    Help was at hand but poor Wang Lin had to retire before her condition got worse.
    It is unlikely that she will recover soon to play other tournaments. She had to start as a qualifier here and played two matches to advance to the main draw, survived R1 but R2 spelt the end of the road for her.

    In all probability she will be out of the race for London Olympics. :(

    (Sorry for typo error: heading should be spelt "agony")
     

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    Badminton result disappointing

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    Letter from Chan Han Kwan
    04:47 AM Jun 21, 2011

    THE Li Ning Singapore Open 2011 final for the men's singles between Lin Dan and Chen Jin (both from China) ended without a fight as Chen Jin won the badminton title with a walkover.

    It is such a great disappointment to the fan and for the sport when the obvious reason for many was that the China team wanted to conserve energy and prevent accidental injuries. The organiser should owe all the ticket holders an explanation and a partial refund for allowing the match to be cancelled in this way.

    As this demonstrated, when the final is between players of the same country, there is a tendency of a walkover.

    I am better off watching matches live on television at home.
     
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    Outside looking In

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    Updated 10:20 AM June 22, 2011

    It's repeated many times by the Chinese players that the World federation must put a stop to this by changing the rules for the finals. To prevent a final being a walkover, one suggestion should be for the loser of the semi-final to challenge the winner of the other semi-final . In this way, there's always a FINAL match to appease everyone.

    (However, sufficient advance notice must be given to the replacement, and there is the question of how to share the prize money and ranking points)
     
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    Letter from Derek Low

    [​IMG] Letter from Derek Low

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    Updated 08:45 AM June 22, 2011

    The bigger picture is for China to have a world ranked player Chen Jin upgraded so that they will have a larger pool of competing players for the 2012 London Olympic. This is a strategic move by the coach or team manager and even at the expense of team spirit, what can we say, it is their choice.


    (But BWF can make rules to penalise the offending party.)
     
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    In this case, LD would play one point and retire.
     
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    1. No matter what suggestion you can have, it will probably not work. How can you prove LD faked his illness? (How many times have you gotten an MC faking a headache or stomach ache?) Just because the pattern seems to repeat for CHN v CHN matches does not hold any water in court. One must be presumed innocent before proven guilty.

    2. I would rather the player withdraw due to fake injury/illness (it's not going to be a good match anyway), than the player forced to play despite real injury/illness.

    3. This will happen as long as the team's interest is above the player's interest. One day (hopefully), we will break out of this cycle when badminton becomes lucrative enough for players to strike out on their own.
     
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    Thoughtful and eloquently well said, this post sums it up.
     
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    I've seen this point raised almost everytime this happens it's getting to the point that it's almost cute. This isn't a prosecution, nobody is going to court. This is a forum where a global community discusses the events in the world of badminton. You don't really think that if we had 100% agreement on this forum that it would lead to any action taken against the CBA?? Also again, the presumption of innocence is irrelevent as there is no mandate here to assign guilt. Also chuckleworthy is your contention that there seems to be a pattern.

    No I say put them out there. Why make it easy for the fakers? All you have to do is look at the other sports for proof against what you are saying here.


    You'll have better luck waiting for the great pumpkin to arise out of his pumpkin patch. As long as you have these national associations meddling in the game, badminton will never become lucrative enough for players to strike out on their own. As OTB has stated in another thread, only a miniscule amount of the money spent by the national associations makes in down to the players.
     
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    The point only gets raised after many fruitless suggestions/accusations. Did I mention I'm going to stifle or stop the discussion? I thought I'm merely joining the discussion by adding my point of view on this topic. Yes, this is not a prosecution, but are you suggesting that we do not hold the principle of "innocent unless proven guilty" in life outside of the courts of law (and yes, even in this forum)? There is no mandate to assign guilt, but it's been assigned anyway.

    What other sports? They force injured athletes to play?

    No, the stimuli will be money. When there is enough money, players do not have to rely on the national associations anymore, and associations will become irrelevant. When there is no "team", then there will be no "team orders". But for there to be money, there must be glamour first. Badminton is still lacking in glamour.
     
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