This came across my mind that I was decreasing my grip size by wrapping one thinner overgrip just a while before I got this golfer's elbow injury. Should that be related somehow ? Or the thicker grip provides better shock absorbing so it help to reduce the impact on the elbow ?
Medial epicondylitis / Golfer's Elbow - what an experience...
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This came across my mind that I was decreasing my grip size by wrapping one thinner overgrip just a while before I got this golfer's elbow injury. Should that be related somehow ? Or the thicker grip provides better shock absorbing so it help to reduce the impact on the elbow ?
visor
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Just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing.
Golfer's elbow (medial epicondylitis) vs. tennis elbow (lateral epicondylitis).
Due to biomechanical forces, golfer's elbow occur due to repetitive forceful forearm pronation, ie. smashes.
Whereas tennis elbow occur due to repetitive forceful forearm supination, ie. backhand shots.
Golfer's elbow (medial epicondylitis) vs. tennis elbow (lateral epicondylitis).
Due to biomechanical forces, golfer's elbow occur due to repetitive forceful forearm pronation, ie. smashes.
Whereas tennis elbow occur due to repetitive forceful forearm supination, ie. backhand shots.
Here are the golfer's elbow exercises I have been doing so far :
Details and pictures can be found over here :
http://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/adult_health/sma_medial_epicondylitis_exercises/
- Wrist stretch (3 x 20secs)
- Eccentric wrist flexion (3 x 15 reps) weight gradually increased
- Eccentric wrist extension (3 x 15 reps) weight gradually increased
- Grip strengthening - squeeze a gyro-force roller ball for 5 mins (3x daily)
- Forearm pronation and supination strengthening (3 x 15 reps) weight gradually increased
Details and pictures can be found over here :
http://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/adult_health/sma_medial_epicondylitis_exercises/
visor
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You need a 675mm racket for more reach instead of the 665mm one that you're using.
Was using a 675mm for the night...
visor
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Now which cab 20 is 675mm?
I still think your injury was due to the harsh vectran feel of the bg85. Especially when you're used to your nbg98. Have you tried zm62/65? Great repulsion and yet medium feel. None of the vectran shock.
Mind to share a bit more about the body rotation part ? Before I learned to use forearm pronation, I used to smash by rotating the whole arm with my shoulder as an axis together with a snap of the wrist during impact.
http://http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php/101870-Slow-mo-video-of-Fu-Haifeng-teaching-how-to-smashFu Hai Feng turns his body. I wasn't doing this very well before. I had unwittingly slipped into a bad habit of just using my shoulder and arm.
I have played with different strings recently, at 25lbs, recently and different strings hurts in different places of my arm. BG80 and BG80/Exbolt65 hybrid hurts my shoulder and outer elbow; BG66UM and Exbolt63 hurts my inner elbow. Ryzonic 65 is pretty safe. Exbolt65 and 66 Force (nanotube technology strings) broke within a short time. People here addressed that to my technique but I disagree with them. I really think strings (and rackets and grips) play considerable factors in the pains on your hands.
Btw, I did more stick smash when I used 66UM and Exbolt63 while more full smash with BG80 and Ryzonic65.
Btw, I did more stick smash when I used 66UM and Exbolt63 while more full smash with BG80 and Ryzonic65.
Have you tried doing the stretching exercises regularly?
I had some problems with other injuries but once I started doing some gym working on trying to balance my left and right side strength better, I haven’t really had many tendon problems.
baddiechan
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I don't see how different strings could be that impactful when it comes to your elbow pain, your hitting technique should be consistent with the same stroke regardless. Racquets and tensions are a different matter, that will introduce factors of flexibility, weight and resistance for consideration. Strings breaking at varying times is a measure of durability - assuming you play in a similar way each time.
When you do a full smash your whole arm moves including the shoulder joint so that probably contributes to your shoulder and outer elbow pain. If your technique is incorrect you'll feel the pain in the overhead motion (tennis elbow) swinging at a high speed.
The inner pain is a symptom of golfer's elbow - it occurs more commonly hitting underhand shots like lifting or serving (mimicing the golf swing from low to high). Without seeing footage of your stick smash, I would guess your elbow is bending when you do it.
With proper strength in your tendons and muscles you can use 'improper' technique to a degree and not feel pain - physical training as Cheung has suggested can help. The tension you're using is not very high so it's strange you're feeling pain however it could be due to your racquet being too stiff as well. Personally I have never heard anybody with sound hitting technique complain of arm pain, if you look at pros most injuries occur in the lower body.
Hope what I've put out here helps.
I think once the symptoms appear and the player is not resting, not stretching and not recovering properly, then any slight thing can set off the pain.
Racquets that vibrate more down to the handle will also irritate the tendon when already inflamed. I found Yonex racquets are generally damped quite well.
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