new camera/lens suggestion

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kwun said:
wait Chris... last time i talked to you, you were talking about getting a D3, what happened to that plan? ;)

TC multiplies the focal length, but also at the same time multiplies the aperture. so with a 2x TC one a 50/1.4, you will end up with a 100/2.8. which is nothing too spectacular and at the same time, the TC will degrade image quality as well as AF speed.

the only TC that is worth using is the 1.4x as that is less image degradation.

if you want to start with something, i suggest getting a 50/1.4 and/or 85/1.8 and then use those for badminton. you will not be disappointed by those.
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:p..hehe, that WAS the plan. But after seeing the price (even a used one), i might have to put that as a backup plan..:D :(

Thanks for the input. Hmm, so i guess it's not recommended to use a TC over a prime lens then..Thing is, getting those prime/FFL lenses might limit the location of where i'm shooting from..hmm..:p
 
Best advice comes from Kwun. He makes very good decisions on choice of equipment.

Get a 40D with the 85/1.8. Can't really see many regrets with that combination.
 
Whoah, so fast..

Cheung said:
Best advice comes from Kwun. He makes very good decisions on choice of equipment.

Get a 40D with the 85/1.8. Can't really see many regrets with that combination.
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..sorry, Cheung..did i wake you up with my constant inquiries??..:p
Yeah, i hope that doesn't mean i will be on the road to purchasing the same gadget as what you guys have now...:( :p
Abt your suggestion of getting a 40D, let me think about that (and check my wallet, first). I think i have a feeling now on what type of lens(es) i should go and try out...:)
 
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ctjcad said:
:p..hehe, that WAS the plan. But after seeing the price (even a used one), i might have to put that as a backup plan..:D :(
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i have to say, i had the :eek: :eek: expression when you first mentioned it... ;)

Thanks for the input. Hmm, so i guess it's not recommended to use a TC over a prime lens then..Thing is, getting those prime/FFL lenses might limit the location of where i'm shooting from..hmm..:p
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then get a few more to cover them all. ;)

seriously, for most badminton shooting, a 50/1.4 + 85/1.8 (or 100/2) will be sufficient, you can add the 135/2 if you want to, but 50 & 85/100 will be a good start and cover a lot of grounds in the beginning. don't try to plan the whole war before it is even started.
 
Well..

kwun said:
i have to say, i had the :eek: :eek: expression when you first mentioned it... ;)
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..take it from a pro-photography noob...:p ;)..Well, i was thinking, if i get a good enough camera body (e.g. D3 or 40Ds), then i might save a bit of money by buying Sigma or Tamron lenses; thus my initial inquiry...
then get a few more to cover them all. ;)

seriously, for most badminton shooting, a 50/1.4 + 85/1.8 (or 100/2) will be sufficient, you can add the 135/2 if you want to, but 50 & 85/100 will be a good start and cover a lot of grounds in the beginning. don't try to plan the whole war before it is even started.
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..i think those lenses are what i'd probably end up with...now, if only i can find some used ones...:p
 
ctjcad said:
..take it from a pro-photography noob...:p ;)..Well, i was thinking, if i get a good enough camera body (e.g. D3 or 40Ds), then i might save a bit of money by buying Sigma or Tamron lenses; thus my initial inquiry...
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That is false economy. If anything, go for the cheaper body (D3 vs 40D= 40D :)) and go for the good lenses. Digital camera bodies have shorter life spans and lose value. Lenses have very slow depreciation.

That's consistent advice you'll find across many photographers.
 
ctjcad said:
..i think those lenses are what i'd probably end up with...now, if only i can find some used ones...:p
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What are you waiting for? Just do it!:D hehe. If you want a 100/f2, I have one. If it goes out of my collection maybe there'll be space in my bag for a 85/1.2...hmm.:rolleyes:;):p heck, maybe I'll just get the lens anyway.

Hey Chris, have you noticed that I just talking about adding lenses to my collection, not a new body;)?
 
if you get a nikon d40, d40x or d60 then those bodies don't have built-in focus motors. you will only be able to autofocus if the lens has a built-in motor, e.g. nikon afi/afs, sigma hsm or some of the newer tamron lenses. nikon's 50mm and 85mm primes aren't afs, only sigma's 30/1.4 has hsm. (ignoring the 200mm+ primes)
 
Lense is more important than the body. Badminton is a fast sport, u need to freeze motion, so u need a "fast" lense. You can Manual focus if the body is too slow, but you cannot freeze motion with a slow lense. Depending on your budget, you can consider a 40D + 70-200 f2.8 (no need IS) if you use a monopod. Add TC 1.4x if you are not too close.

more budget? 40D-> 1dmk II or III; 70-200f2.8->300mmf2.8IS
 
Hmm..

Cheung said:
That is false economy. If anything, go for the cheaper body (D3 vs 40D= 40D :)) and go for the good lenses. Digital camera bodies have shorter life spans and lose value. Lenses have very slow depreciation.

That's consistent advice you'll find across many photographers.
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..i'll keep that in mind..:cool:
Cheung said:
What are you waiting for? Just do it!:D hehe. If you want a 100/f2, I have one. If it goes out of my collection maybe there'll be space in my bag for a 85/1.2...hmm.:rolleyes:;):p heck, maybe I'll just get the lens anyway.

Hey Chris, have you noticed that I just talking about adding lenses to my collection, not a new body;)?
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..yes, i've noticed that..;)
Cheung said:
Chris, drop the cash$$$$$$:)
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:p..hmm, if only i have the same saving as you, Cheung..;)..i think you're intimidating me away, now...:(
Mini Me said:
if you get a nikon d40, d40x or d60 then those bodies don't have built-in focus motors. you will only be able to autofocus if the lens has a built-in motor, e.g. nikon afi/afs, sigma hsm or some of the newer tamron lenses. nikon's 50mm and 85mm primes aren't afs, only sigma's 30/1.4 has hsm. (ignoring the 200mm+ primes)
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..thanks for your input, Mini Me..:cool:
 
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Definitely..

red00ecstrat said:
just wondering, would u consider to get a d300 instead chris?
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...sure, why not; i would consider any fast DSLRs..but price-wise, i believe the 40D is a less expensive than a D300; and it's quite recommendable...;)
Any used (fast prime) lenses for the D300, red00ecstrat??..;)
 
ctjcad said:
...sure, why not; i would consider any fast DSLRs..but price-wise, i believe the 40D is a less expensive than a D300; and it's quite recommendable...;)
Any used (fast prime) lenses for the D300, red00ecstrat??..;)
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I still have two fast prime lenses at the moment. A 50mm F/1.2 and a 135mm F/2.0! But those are Nikon AIS lenses!:D:D:D

Chris, I think the first thing you've gotta do is to pick a side. Nikon or Canon? I'd never decently compared the performance between a 40D and a D300 side by side. But from my memory. I feel D300 is much closer to a pro model. At least the shutter response is really close to a Nikon F5!
 
I have a plan to compare D300 & 30D in badminton on 30 March. can only borrow D300 after flower show. My guess D300 is overall better.
 
Cheung said:
Chris, drop the cash$$$$$$:)
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i agree. the more time you spend to think, the more confused you will get. you already have some good suggestions here, just go out and buy it.

also, the more time you spend to think, the less time you get to enjoy taking photos.
 
red00ecstrat said:
I still have two fast prime lenses at the moment. A 50mm F/1.2 and a 135mm F/2.0! But those are Nikon AIS lenses!:D:D:D

Chris, I think the first thing you've gotta do is to pick a side. Nikon or Canon? I'd never decently compared the performance between a 40D and a D300 side by side. But from my memory. I feel D300 is much closer to a pro model. At least the shutter response is really close to a Nikon F5!
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Hey, don't forget pentax too ;_;
 
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