new camera/lens suggestion

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red00ecstrat said:
sorry again chris!:p but i guess u have some misunderstanding here!;) in fact i felt nothing about camera stuff. i WAS so excited 20 years ago. but now, not anymore!
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.."excited" meaning, the chit-chat/posts can go from one topic to another (directly related or not), all in one thread..:);)
 
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ctjcad said:
Anyway, abt which camera body to get, i was reading some online articles/comparisons and found that maybe getting a Canon 40D is not a bad option after all. Sure, it doesn't have all the same bells & whistles and doesn't have a full frame sensor as one would find in a 1D MkII(N), but at least it has the same processor chip technology (CMOS w/same lenses) as a 1D MkIII;):);) In addition, it does shoot 6.5fps, has a higher megapixels and of course a 14bit Digic III processing. Further, if i get a new or used 40D, it will still be cheaper than a used 1D MkII(N). And i can spend the extra $600-800 on lenses; as mentioned earlier in this thread, the lenses make much more impact on images than the camera body ever will.
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I think you are getting there....

Of course, we'd like you to get the camera so that you do actually buy the lenses to put this thread back on track;):p.
 
Today a colleague of mine brought a brand new Nikon 300D, with a 18/200 lens. I took a photo of him - his desk is 90 degree angle desk with windows surrounding him and light coming from behind.

Boy, I am so impressed with the photo. The face details and the office was pretty clear, the light appears to be good. The outside environment is also clear and not appearing over-exposed and everything looks balanced.

What was more impressive was that the photo was taken without flash. My next target to get... but don't know how long it will take me to save enough to get one.... :crying:
 
hey ctjcad, have you bought your camera yet? if not, here's something to tempt you, from Yodobashi Camera in Osaka!! :D
 

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@ctjcad

IMHO, any side should be fine. Canon and Nikon make good SLRs.
Couple of things that might help in decision:
Do you have any existing gears you can use (especially lens)
See the crowd, what I mean between your friends. If they use Nikon then might be good idea to go for Nikon as well. Reason is so you can borrow/share lenses :D
High end lenses selection/option (this was actually one of my deciding factor.. the L lenses)
 
Hey, Chris, did you get any further in your choices?

It sounds like a 2nd hand camera is the way to go for you initially. Try to avoid the highend stuff for now. There must be some good deals on entry level cameras. Even the 20D would be pretty good - after all, it was state of the art a few years back. Depreciation won't hit too hard either. As for lenses, it's not necessary to go for the 'L' class or primes. Most of the time, those high end lenses get little used and there's always the danger the camera eventually gets stowed away in the cupboard never to see any increase in shutter clicks.
 
i'm definitely recommending the 20d - altho there does appear to be a glut of the 40d on ebay at the moment..

while i'm on a bit of a thread hi-jack sorry ctjcad..
f/1.8 85mm or f/2.0 100mm on a canon 20d...

what a dilemna
 
^^Thanks for all the suggestion...^^

..(oh wow, i don't know how i missed the other 2 posts above Cheung's post:eek:)...thanks guys (Mini Me, ae86trueno, Cheung & coops241180) for all the tips and suggestions.:):cool:...On that note, i think i better get out of this thread and see no further pics because they are sure tempting me....:p :eek:;)
 
Probably driven by some twisted form of greed, my bank is offering me a Canon 400D Kit II with a EF S17-85 IS USM lens, two 2GB CF cards, a Canon NB2LH battery, BG-E3 Battery Grip, a Canon 3-section tripod, a Canon bag, a 400D Magazine and some kinds of guides - all for SGD 1,747.

I'm grappling with three issues here:

1. I have no idea if this is something I should grab or stay away from. (My expertise in photography is as strong as Bush's knowledge of badminton.) Should I succumb to this temptation or not? :(

2. Canon currently has a promotional offer for the EOS 40D kit II (with a EF S17-85 IS USM lens, a 2GB CF card and a workbook) for SGD 2,599. With the EF S18-55 IS lens, it is only SGD 1,999 - that's just 250 bucks away from the 400D! (Even better, for another SGD 459, you can add on a EF S55-250 IS lens.) So, is the 40D the better-value deal here?

3. Just two weeks ago, I bought a Panasonic FZ-18 for SGD 800. If I go for a DSLR, what do I do with this rather nice camera?

Now, why does this have to be so difficult? :mad:
 
Oldhand said:
Probably driven by some twisted form of greed, my bank is offering me a Canon 400D Kit II with a EF S17-85 IS USM lens, two 2GB CF cards, a Canon NB2LH battery, BG-E3 Battery Grip, a Canon 3-section tripod, a Canon bag, a 400D Magazine and some kinds of guides - all for SGD 1,747.

I'm grappling with three issues here:

1. I have no idea if this is something I should grab or stay away from. (My expertise in photography is as strong as Bush's knowledge of badminton.) Should I succumb to this temptation or not? :(

2. Canon currently has a promotional offer for the EOS 40D kit II (with a EF S17-85 IS USM lens, a 2GB CF card and a workbook) for SGD 2,599. With the EF S18-55 IS lens, it is only SGD 1,999 - that's just 250 bucks away from the 400D! (Even better, for another SGD 459, you can add on a EF S55-250 IS lens.) So, is the 40D the better-value deal here?

3. Just two weeks ago, I bought a Panasonic FZ-18 for SGD 800. If I go for a DSLR, what do I do with this rather nice camera?

Now, why does this have to be so difficult? :mad:
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It seems that number 1 is your biggest factor.
 
Oldhand said:
I guess that's an oblique way of saying: "DSLRs are not for dummies" :D
Thank you very much!
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Hmm, not quite true! Just a more expensive way of taking photos:p
If the 'Oldhand' wants to learn new tricks, then it's for you. But you just got a new camera. There will be other deals in the future.:)
If you had not got the new camera, that would be a different matter...:)
 
Cheung said:
Hmm, not quite true! Just a more expensive way of taking photos:p
If the 'Oldhand' wants to learn new tricks, then it's for you. But you just got a new camera. There will be other deals in the future.:)
If you had not got the new camera, that would be a different matter...:)
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Alright then, who wants a spanking new Panasonic FZ-18?
I'm willing to offer a generous discount of one dollar :cool:

PS: I think I should get rid of the bank brochure with the D400 before I fall for it :(
 
Oldhand said:
2. Canon currently has a promotional offer for the EOS 40D kit II (with a EF S17-85 IS USM lens, a 2GB CF card and a workbook) for SGD 2,599. With the EF S18-55 IS lens, it is only SGD 1,999 - that's just 250 bucks away from the 400D! (Even better, for another SGD 459, you can add on a EF S55-250 IS lens.) So, is the 40D the better-value deal here?
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hey oldhand, i wouldnt recommend u to go for those ongoing 'promotional' offers at major electronics stores. i did my homework before i bought my 40d kit II. you can get better prices for the 40d kit II at reputable specialist camera shops in singapore eg.

Parisilk (Holland Village) - $2287 incl GST, 2GB Sandisk Ultra II CF
MS Color (AMK Hub) - $2295 incl GST, 2GB Sandisk Ultra II CF
John 3:16 (Funan Centre) - $2300 incl GST, 2GB Sandisk Ultra II CF
Alan Photo (Funan Centre) - $2300.50 incl GST, 2GB Sandisk Ultra II CF
Cathay Photo (Peninsula) - $2320 incl GST, 2GB Sandisk Ultra II CF (can pay by credit card instalments)

the above prices are correct as at 19/5/08 and cash terms. you can save ~S$300 and get another new arc saber :)

kit I prices are approximately S$500 less.

ps. prices in Hong Kong and Taiwan are much lower but the warranty only applies locally.
 
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coops241180 said:
i'm definitely recommending the 20d - altho there does appear to be a glut of the 40d on ebay at the moment..

while i'm on a bit of a thread hi-jack sorry ctjcad..
f/1.8 85mm or f/2.0 100mm on a canon 20d...

what a dilemna
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and in the end i bought both :)
can't wait to give them both a try at the weekend :)
 
Neil Nicholls said:
which one do you end up using all the time ? :D
they seem too similar to really need both
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you'd think so... but the extra aperture makes quite a bit of difference sometimes.. and sometimes i just can't get close enough to use the 85 (e.g. sat in the crowd at the english nationals on sunday... check my faceboook for pics... )
 
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