panhandle grip discussion

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  1. Winex West Can

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    Thumb on the flat side would be the normal backhand grip. Thumb on the diagonal side with the normal V-grip would be considered the universal grip.
     
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    After looking at the pic, I think I should re-claim my grip as "backhand" rather than "panhandle". I rely a lot on the thumb to provide power in my push and drive.
     
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  4. confuzzledfreak

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    So you play most mid court pushes and drives with pan handle? Ah....this would explain why my mid court push with V grip is always ending up as a very crappy slice...
     
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    After years of getting told not to use panhandle grip for anything other than netshots and, only recently, overhead backhand. Thanks to a friend's suggestion... I found myself experimenting another overhead shot suggestion for a panhandle variation -- the smash:D.

    It took awhile to get used to the idea and longer to get used to the technique. Basically the grip is not total panhandle, the face of the frame faces the same direction as the palm rather than the v-grip (with the racquet head facing a slight degree towards your body). Power and angle of the shot will depend alot more on getting to the back of the shot in time. Thus my focus for power has shifted to footwork... getting behind the shuttle as fast as possible to take it early and hit it down. In addition, holding the racquet relaxed and near the butt of the handle would amplify power of the shot (for safety sake, make sure that you do a little extra wrap around the handle butt for better leverage;)).

    With the new grip, I find that I don't have to turn my racquet as far to do crosscourt over-the-shoulder shots comparing to my old v-grip style (which I would end up slicing for a crosscourt fast drop). The angle and range of my overhead shots increased dramatically since its adoption. It also help my deception as now all my overhead shots look almost similar until after the shuttle left my racquet:D.

    However, the new grip expose new vulnerability as it forces me to clear if I took the shot too late... which is what anybody in this situation should do anyway. Any fancy idea other than a good far clear would result in a midcourt gift:crying:. My old v-grip overhead would still allow me to drop or drive it if I took it late, but it's poor form anyway and probably aggravated my back pain:(.

    So with all these benefits, add me to the list of proponents for the panhandle:D!
     
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    It's more effective if you take the shuttle early (within your reach but contact the shuttle as far as you can with the racquet head square to the shot). I would also brush the shot to keep the shuttle low. Panhandle it if the shot is directed towards you or to your forehand. Use v-grip backhand for shots far to the backhand side.

     
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    is panhandle more effective than v grip if I am playing doubles at the net?
     
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    It is in the context of a doubles situation. Probably holds true for singles as well.

     
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    some people say it is better to use backhand grip for all drives......but I have no idea how to do that :eek:
     
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    Not when the shots are to your forehand side. In a driving duel, there's a chance that some players widen the angle of attack and move you around. Keeping backhand grip for all shots makes it tougher to adjust your response.

     
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    Hi i read about ur panhandle and VOS method.. but i dunno wat are they can u pls explain to me.. and how its is used? thxs.. i'm a beginner trying to improve on my badminton... thxs..
     
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    Cappy,

    Nice to see you join the panhandle club!! I can teach you to be a master of all the shots next time.
     
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    i always think Taufik's forehand grip is leaning toward the panhandle side. not 90degress, but perhap 40 or so. and Taufik does have a huge amount of power.
     
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    It is common for Indonesians to use a grip that is slightly more backhand than forehand - that being the forehand grip rotated to the right about 20-30%.

    I advoate a standard grip as a coach for ease of use and coaching, admitting that a panhandle has certain advantages in certain usages, mainly the net.

    I still find that driving using a panhandle in effective below shoulder height, bearing in mind that I specialise in Mixed and Doubles

    I personaly use a standard forehand grip but holding more loosely and with fingers than in palm.
     
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    haha,
    When ever were are on tournaments he always gives a phone wake up call and in his thick scottish accent says "its a greeat daye fer badminton!"
     
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    in a driving duel tho, i often have to time to change to forehand grip....so I hit with backhand....it gives me pretty good acuracy and power tho... :eek:
     
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    Well, naturally some of your opponents might give you the space and time to do that. However, playing against tougher players who gives you little time to change your grip in leisure, now that's something you should train for. Don't settle for less.

     
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    for as long as i can remember, i have always been using the panhandle grip variation shown in the Badminton Grip Guide. I haven been using this kind of grip for all my forehand shots.
    recently when i was playing with a new group, a guy taught me the forehand grip, i think thats wat u guys refer to the VOS grip. I tried using this technique, but found out that my racket can't seem to face the net squarely, it always seem to be hitting the shuttle and giving some sort of slice to it.
    I'm interested to learned this grip as with my smash, i also used to panhandle grip and using only my wrist to smash. this produce a weak smash that is easily countered by my opponents. According to that fellow, using the forehand grip will allow more use of my whole body, thus giving more force behind my clears and smash.

    Anyone can help me out? :)
     
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    Watching some old Taufik videos, his grip intrigued me. I tried to emulate him by gripping with my thumb on the 1/8th section of the bevel. To my surprise, I found reverse slices and disguised drops (those which look like smashes but are drops) work like a treat.

    Am I right in believing that this is sometime coined as the "universal grip" - used for both forehand and backhand shots?
     
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    I have problem with this , I used to panhandle/basic grip in all terms of shots . My coach asked me to change to forehand grip because it is the real grip , but I cant during my training(I have some problem during my training , but when the match start I can do it) . I not use to forehand grip . I have read some of the post , just quite confuse.
    What is the good and bad effect of panhandle/basic grip?
     

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