Petition to the BWF

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  1. vching

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    To: Whom it may concern (from the Badminton World Federation (BWF))

    We, the undersigned, representing the international badminton community wish to register our concern with the state of proceedings in international badminton tournaments, particularly that of the highest level, which include Super Series, Grand Prix Gold, and Grand Prix tournaments. Our concerns mainly stem from the conduct of several countries that we believe are not only a grave threat to the integrity of the sport of badminton, but a blatant disrespect to other players and badminton fans worldwide.

    Our concerns include:

    a) MATCH FIXING - The numerous walkovers given by players when facing players from the same country, most predominantly players from The People's Republic of China. This is not only unfair to the badminton fans around the world, but also those who bought (often costly) tickets to those matches. In a time where the status of badminton is being threatened worldwide, both from an Olympic and a popularity aspect, such act(s) can only serve to further plunge the status of the sport. In addition to this, such walkover(s) are blatantly unfair to players that the aforementioned players who received the walkover(s) will play in the next round. As the worldwide badminton community, it is our strongest believe that badminton should be played in a neutral platform, and not through disgraceful technicalities such as these. Furthermore, we strongly believe that this is not in the spirit of the game. Such examples include, but are not confined to:

    i) China Open 2007 (23rd November 2007) - Chen Xu/Zhao Tingting gave a walkover to Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen. Both players were reportedly healthy and uninjured.
    ii) China Open 2007 (23rd November 2007) Chen Hong gave a walkover to Bao Chunlai. Chen Hong was seen to be fully fit and able to play badminton.
    iii) Macau Open 2007 (5th October 2007) - Chen Hong gave a walkover to Chen Jin. Chen Hong was, again seen to be fully fit.
    iv) China Masters 2007 (13th July 2007) - Xie Zhongbo and Guo Zhengdong gave a walkover to Cai Yun and Fu Haifeng. It was witnessed that Xie Zhongbo was fully fit when playing Mixed Doubles earlier
    v) German Open 2007 (4th March 2007) - Chen Yu gave a walkover to Lin Dan, citing injury. He even put on a show by demonstrating his difficulty while walking down a staircase. 2 days later, he appears fully fit, reaching the finals of the All England.
    NB: Note that this list is not exhaustive, not even listing every suspicious walkovers that occurred this year in major tournaments.

    b) OFFICIALS FROM SIMMILAR COUNTRIES AS PLAYERS - Linesmen and/or umpires that adjudicate in matches involving players from same countries. We believe that this will encourage bias and unequal adjudication(s) for the players. Although quite common worldwide, we find an unusually large amount of Chinese linesmen and umpires in matches involving Chinese. We wish to draw special attention to an incident that occurred on the 23rd of November, 2007 in which South Korean players Jung Jae Sung and Lee Yong Dae walked out in protest in their match against Chinese Men's Doubles players Guo Zhengdong and Xie Zhongbo. The South Korean players complained of biased linejudging, and this would not have happened if linesmen were from a country other than China.

    We request that the following actions be taken:

    a) An investigation into the alleged match fixing in badminton to determine the cause and to find solutions to this problem. This is not unprecedented in other sports, and to popularize the sport, we believe that such action should be taken. What would a person think of badminton if scars of walkovers stain the integrity of the sport?

    b) Enact certain rules to preserve the integrity of the sport. Such rules can be, but are not restricted to:

    i) Having a 'injury time' if a player gives a walkover in which the player cannot participate in tournaments. – We realize that this rule might be hard to maintain and uphold.
    ii) Officials from countries that are similar to players participating cannot officiate.
    iii) Have BWF volunteers/officials from the panel mentioned in part (c) below to determine the nature of the walkover.

    c) Setting up a panel to examine each individual walkover. This panel can adjudicate other matters, which can include actions breaching the rules or action(s) that are deemed unfair.

    d) Investing of the Hawk-Eye or similar technology, not unlike that of tennis. We believe that this can effectively ensure fairness to all players. This has been a great hit for tennis, effectively improving the popularity of the sport. This is certainly the correct way for badminton to go.

    We do not aim to punish or discredit countries mentioned in this petition, particularly the People’s Republic of China. We, as badminton fans worldwide just want the integrity and respect for the sport to increase and be maintained. Hence, we, the undersigned, representing the badminton community worldwide, urge the Badminton World Federation to take such appropriate actions.

    Go HERE to sign the petition.



    NOTE: THE BADMINTONCENTRAL FORUM OR ANY PARTY RELATED TO IT AND ITS ADMINISTRATION IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED, LINKED OR RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PETITION.
     
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    dee-ja-vu
    or it just double post??
     
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    Are you claiming that you are representing the international badminton community? You have to define the meaning of international badminton community. BTW, one personal opinion or even the whole badminton central forum members do not represent the international community. Officials of participating countries, including those you claim to be "cheated" by China are much better qualified to represent the international badminton community. For a start, why don't you become an official of a national badminton association. It is here that you can claim with some semblance of credibilty to represent the international badminton community. Taking cheap potshots is not.
     
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    hehe, when has an online petition ever worked? Those "digital" signatures can be faked.
     
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    You are being very defensive about the whole thing aren't you???? There is nothing wrong with what he has written especially about claiming to represent the 'international badminton community'.

    This simply means that he represents the international badminton community whom has signed the petition he has made. Nothing wrong there is it???

    Representing a community whom ppl has given their agreement to the matter is not only perfectly ok... it's so much better than compared to ppl who claim to speak on behalf of organizations like BWF and Yonex...

    'Yonex said you should do like this....'

    'Yonex said you shouldn't do like that....'

    Plus : Making a petition and gathering lots and lots of 'signatures' is a very painstaking job both in terms of effort and time involved.

    With the amount of time it takes to make something like this proper..... In what sense do you consider it a CHEAP POTSHOT??? Is everything a potshot to you???

    Based on your logic here, perhaps you should practice your own advice and become an appointed BWF spokesperson / Committee Member before telling ppl what they can say or can not say to BWF.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
     
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    har har yeah i agree. I went to view the signatures.... and I'm not able to tell if the signatures are for real... or there could even be spammed signature.

    vching might need a more crediible system for big organizations to respond to it.
     
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    There's only like 50 when I last checked
     
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    Collected email addresses with reply slips.
     
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    may i post this in another sports forum?
     
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    Enlisting hockey players for the cause? :)
     
  13. PlayaFromMalaya

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    I'm just trying to help....... :crying:
     
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    please sign the petition for sure so that badminton will not be the unfair sport.
     
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    Just in case... Will the system be able to identify if 1 email address has sent more than 1 name / signature to the petition?
     
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    the whole problem with email address is that one person can sign with multiple emails.

    lol, where did you get that image? the number of votes only shows up as few hundred for this petition.
     
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    Yeah... I was getting to that point as well.

    It would be funny if we made a petition to say that 'so and so' are cheating or not 'playing fair'..... only to have BWF or whoever then accuse the petitioners of 'cheating on the signatures'..........

    So Vching.... This is really something you gotta think and solve before you send it out to BWF. You wouldn't want all that hard work to turn into a Dud / blank bullet mmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
     
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    wow, its already 407 people signed:eek::eek::)
     
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    It's futile.

    I wrote a much longer reply but decided to discard it because I (think) can anticipate some of the answers on here from both the users and kwun & the moderators.

    The key content of my reply was
    - what authority does it carry?
    - who owns this petition?
    - should it be taken seriously?
    - who the hell are the 407 number of people who signed the petition? (as of 6:02 pm today)

    I ask the questions above as a neutral on the side of BWF to whom you are submitting this petition to as I am concerned that the lack of answers to the above will make it look like a piece of stationery with 1,000 signatures but nobody to claim its credibility.
     
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