Predicting a ban on Lee Chong Wei

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LCW length of ban for doping offence

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  3. 1 year

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  4. 1.5 years

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  1. visor

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    ^ Improve mental strength... yes, definitely. If this little saga hardship didn't teach him anything, it'd be that...
     
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    Well Germany is trying to introduce a jail term as well in 2015.
     
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    That's probably them trying to make up for those many yrs of state sponsored doping in the 70s and 80s...
     
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    So the advice is not to play in Germany if/while you are doping.
     
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  6. Cheung

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    Might even discourage foreign athletes to work in Germany.
     
  7. visor

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    As long as the athlete doesn't make it a habit of kissing girls with cocaine in the mouth, like some other athlete who was found to have it in their system but used this excuse to get off...
     
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    If there are concrete evidences that the Medical Practitioner that is treating Dato' conducted unprofessionally and an official complaint made to Malaysian Medical Council (MMC) and through investigation MMC found him guilty under the Professional Code of Ethics, 1971 Medical Act, the practitioner can be suspended anywhere from 6 month to 2 years.

    On top of this, Dato' at the same time also can proceed to sue the practitioner for the damage done as well.

    Poor doctor.
     
  9. Cheung

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    "Assuming" that the doctor gave dexamethasone in good faith and believed the time period was long enough with some data at hand, it would be quite difficult to make a claim of professional misconduct.
     
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    Yes but how difficult and complex the scenario is, the MMC board of Consultants and Health Ministry top level management officers will still need to come with a conclusive verdict in regards with the nature of such conduct if such complaint is made to MMC
     
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    Definitely so. Something for the MPS to also look at.
     
  12. Cheung

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    Sigit budiarto also had a doping offence. Can't remember what substance or the length of time he had away from the game.
     
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    Yes, but someone has to be the fall guy, and it isn't going to be LCW, BAM, or some politician.

    This poor doctor will be in a very tough position... even if not reprimanded, his professional reputation in MAS will have suffered significant damage.
     
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    I googled and found this :
    I would say in 1998, I got suspended for 13 months due to being charged of using illegal substances in a doping test. To be honest until now I have no idea what I've taken which is illegal.

    http://www.badminton-information.com/sigit-budiarto-interview.html
     
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    It was nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, which is a very big no no, doesn't matter in or out of competition.
     
  16. shooting stroke

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    Yes someone has to be the fall guy and most likely the poor doctor in this case seems to be in a tight position. If found guilty and MMC suspended him, for sure his name will come out in the media similarly like the other well known physician/consultants/group practitioners and celebrities doctor that MMC has found guilty before this.

    Indeed his reputation will be in tainted and hopefully the poor doctor can move on again as i think we all believe that in good faith he never intended to do any harm to anyone that he treats let alone to Malaysia most celebrated Olympian, Dato' LCW who most probably he as well is among Dato hard core fan. .
     
  17. Cheung

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    We only guess that dexamethasone in a sustained release preparation was given from a newspaper article. If ordinary dexamethasone was given, then it would be difficult to implicate the physician.

    Likely that we will never know.

    Probably the main thing to draw from this is all athletes need to fill in TUE's for 2months after taking any drug. Even if the drug is not on the list, still fill in the TUE.

    That would also go for supplements that are commonly used now.

    It's a pain carrying around a stack of TUEs but if WADA is going to increase the length of ban, then athletes are going to be on the cautious approach.

    Possibly they can have a PDF file that can be filled in with their personal details as a template, and then run off copies as needed.
     
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    The conclusion from all of this saga is that from now on......... other then having a badminton racket, proper shoes and attire, we must have a few TUE form with us as part of our preparation to play badminton :)
     
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    what are LCW's chances of obtaining a TUE, bearing in mind the three criteria:

    * The athlete would experience significant health problems without taking the prohibited substance or method
    * The therapeutic use of the substance would not produce significant enhancement of performance, and
    * There is no reasonable therapeutic alternative to the use of the otherwise prohibited substance or method.

    https://www.wada-ama.org/en/questions-answers/therapeutic-use-exemptions
     
  20. Cheung

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    Yup. If in no doubt, still fill it out!
     
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