Race to Guangzhou

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    List of players who qualified to HSBC BWF World Tour Final in Guangzhou

    Players who qualified after winning BWF World Championship
    MS - JPN - Kento Momota
    WS - IND - Pusarla Venkata Sindhu
    MD - INA - Mohammad Ahsan / Hendra Setiawan
    WD - JPN - Mayu Matsumoto / Wakana Nagahara
    XD - CHN - Zheng Siwei / Huang Yaqiong

    Players who qualified after French Open
    MD - JPN - Takeshi Kamura / Keigo Sonoda
    WD - KOR - Kim So-yeong / Kong Hee-yong
    XD - INA - Praveen Jordan / Melati Daeva Oktavianti

    Players who qualified after Macau Open
    XD - THA - Dechapol Puavaranukroh / Sapsiree Taerattanachai

    Players who qualified after Fuzhou China Open
    MS - INA - Jonatan Christie
    MS - TPE - Chou Tien Chen
    WS - THA - Ratchanok Intanon
    WS - CHN - Chen Yu Fei
    WS - TPE - Tai Tzu Ying
    XD - MAS - Chan Peng Soon / Goh Liu Ying
    XD - CHN - Wang Yi Lyu / Huang Dong Ping
    MD - INA - Marcus Fernaldi Gideon / Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo
    MD - CHN - Li Jun Hui / Liu Yu Chen
    WD - INA - Greysia Polii / Apriyani Rahayu
    WS - JPN - Nozomi Okuhara
    MD - TPE - Lee Yang / Wang Chi Lin
    WD - CHN - Chen Qing Chen / Jia Yi Fan
    WD - JPN - Yuki Fukushima / Sayaka Hirota
    XD - JPN - Yuta Watanabe / Arisa Higashino
    XD - INA - Hafiz Faizal / Gloria Emanuelle Widjaja

    Players who qualified after Hongkong Open
    MS - CHN - Chen Long
    MS - DEN - Viktor Axelsen
    WS - JPN - Akane Yamaguchi
    MD - JPN - Hiroyuki Endo / Yuta Watanabe
    WD - THA - Jongkolphan Kititharakul / Rawinda Prajongjai
    WD - CHN - Du Yue / Li Yin Hui
    MS - INA - Anthony Sinisuka Ginting
    MS - DEN - Anders Antonsen
    WS - CHN - He Bing Jiao
    WD - KOR - Lee So Hee / Shin Seung Chan
    XD - KOR - Seo Seung Jae / Chae Yujung

    Players who qualified after Gwangju Korea Masters
    WS - Busanan Ongbamrungphan
    MD - Lu Ching Yao / Yang Po Han
    MS - Wang Tzu Wei
    MD - Aaron Chia / Soh Wooi Yik

    I will update this post every week if there are other players qualify to World Tour Final.

    My source for this largely comes from Badmintalk. The admin of Badmintalk will update the ranking points for this World Tour Final in this remaining tournaments. Any post of it related to World Tour Final is encouraged.

    You can discuss about the players' possibility to World Tour Final along with some calculations.
     
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    i'm too lazy to do the calculations anymore. it started to feel like i was wasting my time doing something the bwf folks are being paid to do anyway. :D i'd rather figure out stuff other people aren't thinking about or bothering with... creating additional information.
     
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    JC and CTC are the closest one to secure the spots to WTF. They can seal their spots in Fuzhou China Open.
     
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    Some players in this top 16 participate in Macau Open. Many of these top 16 are also scheduled to play in Korea Masters. RI may confirm her spot in Fuzhou China Open.
     
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    Kamura/Sonoda have sealed their spot. One more spot has been sealed by an INA pair other than Ahsan/Hendra. Minions are safe within the top 9. But, Fajar/Rian can still catch up to them. If minions can produce better result than Fajar/Rian in Fuzhou China Open, the spot that has been reserved for INA belongs to them.
     
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    Kim/Kong have sealed their spot in WTF. JPN WD will have 2 reps in WTF. One spot has been sealed by the World Champion Matsumoto/Nagahara. The other spot will be contested by FukuHiro and TakaMatsu. It is highly likely that their spot will be determined at the end of the race.
     
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    Following Praveen/Melati's victory in Denmark and France, they sealed their spot. Some of the pairs may confirm their spot in Fuzhou China Open.
     
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    I have just made the spreadsheet about the remaining tournaments for the players. Players who are confirmed to not be able to qualify to WTF will have their name removed from the spreadsheet.

    Green -> The player participates in the given tournament
    Yellow -> Qualified to WTF

     
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    Nishimoto is not going to take part in HSBC World Tour Final.

    The best chance is last year. This year is done.
     
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    The next player after the top 8 list is Lee Zii Jia. He is slated to participate in Fuzhou China Open, Hongkong Open and Korea Masters. The maximum amount of points earned in these 3 tournaments are 27020 (11000 + 9200 + 7000). Thus, the maximum points that LZJ can possibly earn is 90040 (63020 + 27020). There are 2 players that can confirm their spot in Fuzhou China Open, regardless of the other players' result.

    Jonatan Christie : 81970
    Reaching Final : 81970 + 9350 = 91320

    Chou Tien Chen : 81390
    Reaching Final : 81390 + 9350 = 90740

    Any less result than the above scenarios will be depending on the other players' result or else they have to wait for Hongkong Open.
     
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    The number 8th, Michelle Li, isn't in the safe zone because the World Champion PVS, who is outside the top 8, has secured her spot. Michelle Li only has 2 tournaments to participate, Fuzhou China Open and Hongkong Open. On the other hand, SJH will be participating in all of the remaining 3 tournaments, including Gwangju Korea Masters.

    The maximum points that SJH can possibly earn is 93030 (66010 + 27020).

    3 players can confirm their spots in Fuzhou China Open.
    • Ratchanok Intanon
      Current point : 90210
      Result needed to secure the spot : At least R2 (90210 + 4320 = 94530)
    • Chen Yu Fei
      Current point : 86560
      Result needed to secure the spot : At least SF (86560 + 7700 = 94260)
    • Tai Tzu Ying
      Current point : 85210
      Result needed to secure the spot : At least Final (85210 + 9350 = 94560)
    These scenarios are without taking account of other players' result in Fuzhou China Open. They may even confirm their spots earlier.
     
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    Except the Indonesians, the rest of the pairs will participate in all of the 3 remaining tournaments. Minions are safe within the top 9, but Fajar/Rian can still catch up to them. However, minions are highly likely to seal the spot. There are 2 other pairs who can qualify to WTF besides minions this week.

    Fajar/Rian's maximum possible points : 85240 + 11000 + 9200 = 105440
    Chia/Soh's maximum possible points : 69240 + 11000 + 9200 + 7000 = 96440
    Liao/Su's maximum possible points : 61360 + 11000 + 9200 + 7000 = 88560

    3 pairs that can seal the WTF spot in Fuzhou China Open.
    • Minions
      Current point : 100950
      Result needed to secure the spot : At least QF (100950 + 6050 = 107000) - surpassing Fajar/Rian
    • Lee/Wang
      Current point : 90150
      Result needed to secure the spot : At least SF (90150 + 7700 = 97850) - surpassing Chia/Soh
    • Li/Liu
      Current point : 88180
      Result needed to secure the spot : At least Final (88180 + 9350 = 97530) - surpassing Chia/Soh
    Just a participation in Fuzhou China Open from Li/Liu is enough to be unsurpassed by Liao/Su. Should Chia/Soh lose earlier, Lee/Wang and Li/Liu can qualify faster.
     
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    TakaMatsu, Liu/Xia and Li/Zheng are ranked above Lee/Shin, who are in the safe zone. The reason they are not in the safe zone is because their compatriots are better ranked than them. Most of the pairs, except Indonesians, will also play in Korea Masters, in addition to FCO and HKO. FukuHiro and TakaMatsu are likely to fight until the end for the WTF spot.

    Liu/Xia's maximum points possible : 66720 + 11000 + 9200 + 7000 = 93920
    Li/Zheng's maximum points possible : 66380 + 11000 + 9200 + 7000 = 93580
    Hsu/Hu's maximum possible points : 59120 + 11000 + 9200 + 7000 = 86320

    Here are the possibility that the WD pairs can seal their WTF spot in Fuzhou China Open.
    • Chen/Jia
      Current point : 86850
      Pairs that can surpass them : Liu/Xia, Li/Zheng
      How they can seal the spot :
      • At least SF (86850 + 7700 = 94550)
      • Reaching QF and neither Liu/Xia nor Li/Zheng become FCO winner
      • Reaching R2 and neither Liu/Xia nor Li/Zheng reach Final
      • Lose in R1 and neither Liu/Xia nor Li/Zheng reach SF
    • Polii/Rahayu
      Current point : 82720
      Pairs that can surpass them : Hsu/Hu
      How they can seal the spot :
      • At least R2 (82720 + 4320 = 87040)
      • Lose in R1 and Hsu/Hu don't become the winner
    • Kititharakul/Prajongjai
      Current point : 76930
      Pairs that can surpass them : Hsu/Hu
      How they can seal the spot :
      • Become winner (76930 + 11000 = 87930)
      • Reaching Final and Hsu/Hu don't become the winner
      • Reaching SF and Hsu/Hu don't reach Final
      • Reaching QF and Hsu/Hu don't reach SF
      • Reaching R2 and Hsu/Hu don't reach QF
      • Lose R1 and Hsu/Hu don't reach R2
     
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    Dechapol/Sapsiree have qualified to WTF by winning Macau Open title. Some of the pairs in the top 16 will also participate in Korea Masters.

    Rinov/Pitha's maximum possible points : 62270 + 11000 + 9200 = 82470
    Goh/Lai's maximum possible points : 60210 + 11000 + 9200 + 7000 = 87410

    A simple participation in Fuzhou China Open from Hafiz/Gloria will eliminate Rinov/Pitha from qualifying to WTF. This is because INA already has one qualified pair in Praveen/Melati.

    Here are the possibility that the XD pairs can seal their WTF spot in Fuzhou China Open.
    • Chan/Goh
      Current point : 87200
      Pairs that can surpass them : Goh/Lai
      How they can seal the spot :
      • Just by participating in FCO
    • Wang/Huang
      Current point : 84320
      Pairs that can surpass them : Goh/Lai
      How they can seal the spot :
      • At least R2 (84320 + 4320 = 88640)
      • Lose in R1 and Goh/Lai don't become the winner
    • Hafiz/Gloria
      Current point : 82150
      Pairs that can surpass them : Rinov/Pitha, Goh/Lai
      How they can seal the spot :
      • At least QF (82150 + 6050 = 88200)
      • Reaching R2 and Goh/Lai don't become the winner
      • Lose R1 and Goh/Lai don't reach Final
    • Watanabe/Higashino
      Current point : 78300
      Pairs that can surpass them : Goh/Lai, Tan/Lai, Ellis/Smith, Nipitphon/Savitree
      How they can seal the spot :
      • Reaching Final (78300 + 9350 = 87650)
      • Other results and depending on the above pairs' result.
     
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    @minions will Syed Modi count as WTF poin this year or not?
     
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    Nope. The cutoff date is before Syed Modi starts. I believe it has been stated earlier this year.
     
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    So Syed Modi 2019 like Gwangju Korea Masters 2018 points will be futile for Race to Guangzhou in respective years?
     
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    Yes, but, at least, the players have been notified earlier this year. It should be clear by now, unlike last year.
     

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