... of around 87, preferably 4U and moderately stiff. Anyone know a racket with those specs? Tks in advance!
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Does weight class matter much if you are focusing on swing weight? If you are looking for racket of X swing weight then the only difference can be weight situated around the handle area to make a a racket fall into 3u or 4u category. the difference can only be a few grams at most because too much would surely change the swing weight. Plus the choice of grip can easily balance out the wight difference.
Based on my experience, adding weight to the handle won't affect swing weight much. Adding 8g to the handle may only increase less than 0.5 to the swing weight.
But isn't that the racket design coming into play? I understand the difference is there but if you have a heavy 4u and a light 3u with almost identical swing weight then the difference has got to be all in the handle and thus changing between grip types will have a bigger effect on the racket than the weight class itself.Weight class matters even if you look at swing weight. Try a Arcsaber 11 and Fortius 10P for example. 2 very different rackets that don't play the same despite similar swing weights. If anything the 10P probably plays a bit slower due to the box frame and head heavy balance despite the 4U weight.
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That's my point exactly. You can't just compare A to B due to spec design differences. Now you talk about heavy 4U and light 3U but there in lies the crux (to me) of whether they actually have the same swing weight at all? In order to find that both specs would have to overlap in several areas before you can even get the same numbers I would imagine.But isn't that the racket design coming into play? I understand the difference is there but if you have a heavy 4u and a light 3u with almost identical swing weight then the difference has got to be all in the handle and thus changing between grip types will have a bigger effect on the racket than the weight class itself.
For instance using towel grip over PU overgrip might add like 8-10g extra weight to the handle alone and have a much bigger impact than just its weight class designation alone.
Legit I don't remember LOL. To be fair I went to it because of my wrist injury from my e-scooter fall and my shoulder problem. I can try weigh it now but it's long out of dry spec. I can however weigh my 3UG6 JP coded piece if you want me to. That's my 4th piece but I haven't strung it up yet so it's in pure stock condition. The other 3 were used or bought during release so I already turned in into my usual setup.
For the sake of science, yes please!Legit I don't remember LOL. To be fair I went to it because of my wrist injury from my e-scooter fall and my shoulder problem. I can try weigh it now but it's long out of dry spec. I can however weigh my 3UG6 JP coded piece if you want me to. That's my 4th piece but I haven't strung it up yet so it's in pure stock condition. The other 3 were used or bought during release so I already turned in into my usual setup.
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Alright. I'll do it when I get home tonight.For the sake of science, yes please!
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Of course you'd have to get the data or measure rackets yourself, I never claimed just any old heavy 4u and light 3u rackets have a similar swing weight. I claimed that any racket with a similar swing weight wouldn't necessarily have to be in the same weight class yet would still delivery a similar swing and obviously the force upon shuttle impact would be similar too (aside from aerodynamics and stiffness of course as they effect the swing too).That's my point exactly. You can't just compare A to B due to spec design differences. Now you talk about heavy 4U and light 3U but there in lies the crux (to me) of whether they actually have the same swing weight at all? In order to find that both specs would have to overlap in several areas before you can even get the same numbers I would imagine.
If you want to go down that road then my only question is do you want to afford that money to do so? The process of experimenting just because you want to find that particular spec when it probably is cheaper to just up your game and muscular strength to compensate.
Don't get me wrong. I love crunching the numbers and their relation to our equipment a smuch as the next OCD guy here. But I think there comes a point also whereby it isn't a necessity to do it every time you want a new racket.
When I switched to the NF800 as a main tbh I was kinda all over the place on racket choice partly due to long term injury and partly trying to settle on a new main. I will never stop trying new stuff until I physically am unable to but my point is that sometimes you just gotta try and see if it works
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Of course you'd have to get the data or measure rackets yourself, I never claimed just any old heavy 4u and light 3u rackets have a similar swing weight. I claimed that any racket with a similar swing weight wouldn't necessarily have to be in the same weight class yet would still delivery a similar swing and obviously the force upon shuttle impact would be similar too (aside from aerodynamics and stiffness of course as they effect the swing too).
Now I'm wondering if the rackets aerodynamics have any influence on the swing weight? Does more air resistance mean lower swing weight or higher? or does it not effect it at all. hmm....