Master
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Hmm... I see.
So, basically it's the same with Rio qualification point but using a different range period...
How can you make it? Do you use some spreadsheet program like Excel maybe?
Seeds for the 2016 Olympic
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So, basically it's the same with Rio qualification point but using a different range period...
How can you make it? Do you use some spreadsheet program like Excel maybe?
yes, it's with excel
Master
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Not decreasing I think...
Because it cannot be replaced by lower point. If you get a bad result, the qualification points not change at all, on the contrary if you get better result, the new better result will be counted in.
The decreasing only happen in normal ranking in which last year tournament point replaced by this year tournament point.
yes, just realised that you're referring to BWF's RIO list.
you're right, that cannot be decreased. same as the list for the seedings that I'd posted.
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Master
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Yes indeed with normal ranking points.
But for the qualification and/or seeding points, the time frame already cut off. There are starting point and ending point which is the time frame lasting only in 1 year, so there isn't last year counted inside that time frame.
this is the current MS seedings before the BAC this week
the only way to stop LCW to overtake LD as No 2 is for LD to beat LCW in the semi and CL in the final.
even then LCW and LD will both has exactly the same points, 74,020!
not sure what will happen if they decided to leave it at that until the RIO Olympics. will they toss the coin for the No2 seed?
the only way to stop LCW to overtake LD as No 2 is for LD to beat LCW in the semi and CL in the final.
even then LCW and LD will both has exactly the same points, 74,020!
not sure what will happen if they decided to leave it at that until the RIO Olympics. will they toss the coin for the No2 seed?
Nine Tailed Fox
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The player with better H2H will be number 2 seed.
touya
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But the points for seeding will continue till end of July right? So this week result will only decide who will qualify or not, does not matter if LD or LCW have the same points since both will qualify.
There is no question about qualifying. We don't care how many points they have now. They'll both qualify, or I'll eat my shoe and more.
The question is what seedings they (and a few others) will have. So, we care about their points and ranking come end July - the official ranking released on Week 29 - which includes points from 2015 Week 30 up to 2016 Week 28 (a range of 52 weeks).
Edit: So, I think what AlanY basically did for us is to remove all the points prior to 2015 Week 30, and fill in the gap with the next highest eligible points, and he'll keep adjusting (include recent points earned) until Week 28 is over.
Well, the advantage LCW have is that his 4 lowest points (2660, 3600, 3600, 4320) are pretty low and easily replaced by probably this week's Asian Continental, Thomas Cup (guaranteed high points), INA PSS and AUS SS. And his 6 highest points are pretty high, which is why he is still neck and neck with LD despite having 4 pretty low scores.
LD will not gain that much (compared to LCW) even if he does well in the remaining tournaments, his current 4 lowest points being 5500, 6050, 6050, 6420.
So, I say advantage LCW, but he still needs to do reasonably well to say on top of LD.
yes, agreed that LCW has advantage to be seeded 2, or even 1.
the other alternative of course is for both CL and LD to drop to 3 and 4 to guaranteed at the opposite halves of the draw.
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Interesting point
I wonder how they could achieve that, assuming they want to.
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There is a group stage and knock-out stage. Players/pairs from the same NOC will not be drawn to the same group. But there is no NOC separation for the knock-out stage.
nokh88
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The way I look at it. Olympic field is not strong. You only have the 1st and 2nd best from one country and some of 1st and 2nd are world rank >100.
Besides the Tripartite slots (which we do not know yet), there is only one player outside of the top 100 (Oceania best MS). The Host have MS and WS inside the Top 100, and they even qualify by "merit", without using the Host card.
Master
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I will see your next update after BAC/EC result included.
kelana
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Thanks AlanY for this thread and the many table updates.
I believe the seeding position and the accompanying drawing outcome are very crucial to the medal path since no any player has absolute advantage to the rest.
There is just no such Ma Long's equivalence in today's badminton
I believe the seeding position and the accompanying drawing outcome are very crucial to the medal path since no any player has absolute advantage to the rest.
There is just no such Ma Long's equivalence in today's badminton
Well, considering that Chen Long has had a horrible 2016 (by his standard), it does look like China is trying to get Lin Dan 2nd seeded and Chen Long 3rd seeded. I'm not saying that they ARE doing that, but I can easily see the benefits in it. I'm pretty sure, LCW will be seeded 1st. At the moment, we don't know if the 2 players from each country will come in separate half of the draws, but if they do, then the second Chinese men single would meet LCW. I think that China will have the biggest chance to win, if Chen Long plays LCW in the semi, and Lin Dan in the final. But then LD will have to meet VA or Jan O in his semi (if they make it), and they both seems to have a good hand on Lin Dan.
This is probably the best Olympics for MS. Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, Chen Long, Viktor Axelsen, Jan Ø Jørgensen, Chou Tien Chen, Tommy Sugiarto, Son Wan Ho, Ng Ka Long Angus and the dark-horse Hu Yun, are all contenders to a medal (LD, LCW, VA, Jan O and SWH as gold medalists)