TH or Lin Dan to final Hongkong SS

Discussion in 'China Open (2) / Hong Kong Open / Vietnam Open 200' started by bramyes, Nov 28, 2008.

  1. phaarix

    phaarix Regular Member

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    But I am enjoying the games, while also enjoying this discussion :). It's part of the reason I love Badminton Central - it's not often I get the opportunity to voice my opinion, so I make the most of it :):).

    And luckily cooler gives me that opportunity very often :D.
     
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    speeding analogy was used because that's how insurance company rate the driver's potential risk of 'future' auto collision and damages:rolleyes:

    OK, even if i just use the two score examples for statistical debate, my point is EVEN MORE valid:

    (A) A 4-1 score is a 3 point spread, a 20-18 score is a 2 point spread. Since u accepted a WO at 20-18 score is a valid lost, the 4-1 score with the larger 3 point spread IS EVEN MORE indicative of a H2H lost

    (B) TH earned 25% of game point (1 out of 4) before walking out. Since u accepted a WO at 20-18 is a valid lost, 18 point represent 90% of the game point. Why earning 90% of the game or 18 point is a lost but earning a measly 25% or 1 point is not a lost???

    using pure statistical comparision as u had demanded, it clearly showed that your premise of 4-1 WO by TH as not being a valid data point for H2H comparison doesn't hold any truth. Actually, this statistical comparison supported my position even more so.
     
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    Ok then, tell me, in a scientific experiment, what would be more likely? 5 tests, or 38?

    In a test of probability - repeated 5? Or 38 times?

    I think that's all I need to say.

    The equivalent of which is what? The future risk of Taufik walking out???
     
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    1. seem like dont understand probability and odds. Next time, go ask a booky which odd of losing is higher, 1 in 4 or 18 to 20 LOL


    2. equivalent to FUTURE CHANCE OF TH LOSING. :rolleyes:


    u should pay me for all these statistic classes i've given u
     
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    LOL! Go LD, show us you're the real bad boy! LD will win this time.
    LOLOL! LOL rules!!
     
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    1. Ahhhhh.... like talking to a brick wall. You get much more accurate idea if you have more numbers when you're dealing with probability. You don't even get what I'm saying do you?? >_>... Like for instance: Early numbers for US election count put John McCain ahead (when they just started counting), as the day went on, with more numbers it was obvious that Obama was winning by a mile.

    2. Losing by walking out at the start of a game. It's not equivalent to a full match. Change the record...
     
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    By the way... Taufik was just leading 4-1 in the first set... but did he win it? No :).
     
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    i also have said LD would be generous today. He let TH lead most of way, on both sets.

    say what u want, odds say TH will lose and statistic was right, TH lost, again.
     
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    So what? What's that got to do with it? I didn't say anything about that :S.

    I wasn't even talking about whether Taufik would win or lose! I just found counting the HKO 06 match in H2H ridiculous.

    And yes you're absolutely right, statistics say that chances are Taufik would lose this one, whether you count the HKO 06 or not. But like I said, that's not what I was talking about. Why do I repeatedly have to clarify what I'm actually talking about? I feel I'm being clear enough...
     
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    yes, but there is one big difference, LD did not WO.:rolleyes:
     
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    but i did, based on 06 HKO WO statistical record, even a WO one.
     
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    Stats tell a chilling tale :D
    Everyone has bad H2H's against LD :D, barring Chen Hong and previously PSH, but now PSH has nothing over him.
     
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    Exaggeration.

    It's called a "what if" scenario. As in, "by your reasoning, how about this etc. etc.".
     
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    You can say that again when he actually beats LD in the future.
    He had his moments in 07.
     
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    This is getting silly :). Guess I'll leave it here unless anyone has anything worthwhile to add.
     
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    it just show that some people are now conceding that LCW and TH can't do the job and now backing their new idol PSH to do the job
     
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    nice to chat with u taufik-ist, until we meet again here on BF for next LD vs TH match, i guess u will be sliding back into your hole:D:p
     

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