the sky is falling!!!

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  1. cooler

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    maybe in boleh land. Remember, 2009 sudirman cup and WC is not over yet, don't bounce up and down too much yet.:p
     
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    relax, wc and sudirman cup are just around the corner.
    Add Oil Land will be rock and roll after those tournaments i believe:p
     
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    sudirman cup is on and it aint rainin.. Yippee! ;)
     
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    Now the sky is falling.... just a little bit... ;)
     
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    ya... can get some for me? hehe... ;) Very kind of them. ;)
     
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    Which one do you need? Some thing like your blue face? You need to make your racquet shaft stiffer?:eek:
     
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    Stiff shaft :eek: and vibrates?

     
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    Yup.... ;) The sky is falling now. ;) 15 minutes for the game will do. ;) A distraction technique. ;)
     
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    looks like DOW aint falling. Its roaring back. ;)
     
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    A quick revision. Econ condition has stable a bit. However, it will be a long slow decline of 5 to 6 year min before any real pick up in econ activity.
     
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    decline or incline? :(
     
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    depending on which country u r talking about.:p I believe SH was referring to the US long term prosperity
     
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    that means the sky is still falling :(. cant see the bottom yet?
     
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    u should read from post #1 and get the flavor of this thread. :p:p
     
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    down grade? anyone?
     
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    Its a slow U recovery. So, load up now dudes... ;)
     
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    Is 5-6 years optimistic or pessimistic?

    Is the US stimulus packages really stabilizing its economy?

    Would we see a much quicker recovery if the US government didn't intervene as much or at all?
     
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    yes and no

    without the stimulus package, the recovery would be a bit slower (not by much) BUT the recovery would be real and longer lasting.
     
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    Hilarious yet perceptive explanation of Derivative Markets....
    Written by Peter Grandich - Agoracom Small Cap Investment | Thursday, 21 May 2009 12:55
    Heidi is the proprietor of a bar in Detroit. She realizes that virtually all of her customers are unemployed alcoholics and, as such, can no longer afford to patronize her bar. To solve this problem, she comes up with new marketing plan that allows her customers to drink now, but pay later.

    She keeps track of the drinks consumed on a ledger (thereby granting the customers loans).

    Word gets around about Heidi’s “drink now, pay later” marketing strategy and, as a result, increasing numbers of customers flood into Heidi’s bar. Soon she has the largest sales volume for any bar in Detroit.
    By providing her customers’ freedom from immediate payment demands, Heidi gets no resistance when, at regular intervals, she substantially increases her prices for wine and beer, the most consumed beverages. Consequently, Heidi’s gross sales volume increases massively. ( Heidi and waitresses/waiters/bartenders get big paychecks)

    A young and dynamic vice-president at the local bank recognizes that these customer debts constitute valuable future assets and increases Heidi’s borrowing limit. He sees no reason for any undue concern, since he has the debts of the unemployed alcoholics as collateral.

    At the bank’s corporate headquarters, expert traders transform these customer loans into DRINKBONDS, ALKIBONDS and PUKEBONDS. These securities are then bundled and traded on international security markets. Naive investors don’t really understand that the securities being sold to them as AAA secured bonds are really the debts of unemployed alcoholics.

    Nevertheless, the bond prices continuously climb, and the securities soon become the hottest-selling items for some of the nation’s leading brokerage houses.( Brokers and bankers then get big paychecks AND bonuses)


    One day, even though the bond prices are still climbing, a risk manager at the original local bank decides that the time has come to demand payment on the debts incurred by the drinkers at Heidi’s bar. He so informs Heidi.

    Heidi then demands payment from her alcoholic patrons, but being unemployed alcoholics they cannot pay back their drinking debts. Since, Heidi cannot fulfill her loan obligations she is forced into bankruptcy. The bar closes and the eleven employees lose their jobs.

    Overnight, DRINKBONDS, ALKIBONDS and PUKEBONDS drop in price by 90%. The collapsed bond asset value destroys the banks liquidity and prevents it from issuing new loans, thus freezing credit and economic activity in the community.

    The suppliers of Heidi’s bar had granted her generous payment extensions and had invested their firms’ pension funds in the various BOND securities. They find they are now faced with having to write off her bad debt and with losing over 90% of the presumed value of the bonds. Her wine supplier also claims bankruptcy, closing the doors on a family business that had endured for three generations, her beer supplier is taken over by a competitor, who immediately closes the local plant and lays off 150 workers.

    Fortunately though, the bank, the brokerage houses and their respective executives are saved and bailed out by a multi-billion dollar no-strings attached cash infusion from the Government. (ie, brokers and banker peddlers get to keep their jobs) The funds required for this bailout are obtained by new taxes levied on employed, middle-class, non-drinkers.

    Now, do you understand?
     
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