Thomas Cup outside Asia?

Discussion in 'Thomas Cup / Uber Cup 2010' started by **KZ**, May 13, 2010.

  1. **KZ**

    **KZ** Regular Member

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    Why hasn't the TC been held sumwhere outside asia for such a long time?...especially europe...
     
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    ask BWF... easier;)...
     
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    Because it makes sense to host it closer to the mjority of fans. European countries (apart from Denmark) are "developing countries" i am afraid, when it comes to understanding badminton as a sport!
     
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    tc should be held in malaysia all the time. Coz got live on tv. Malaysia boleh! ;)
     
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    Yup, 28 years ago:eek: London is the host for 1982 Thomas Cup edition.
     
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    2 yrs ago? 4 yrs ago? it was held in Japan
    but more than half of the seats are empty..........
    the atmosphere is not good
    so i would prefer it to be hold in countries of hot favourites,
    to make the competition "sounds" more interesting :)
     
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    UK might be the best Badminton host outside Asia.. saw All England and the stadium quite full..

    but for the 2012 TUC and 2011 SC edition.. Indonesia will ones again host them.. hhe.. so just enjoy the game..
     
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    European crowd = boring = lousy tv ;) Should be in Jakarta every time :cool: (if they can clean up the ticketing mess). Football would be a lot less interesting if the crowd only made sound when someone shot at goal or scored. Ever watch one of those games without any spectators :rolleyes: Still the commentator can save something which I guess makes All England bareable but not the the casual viewer ...
     
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    Best place in Europe for badminton is not Denmark nor England. Its by far France!

    Stadium always close to full at French Open and the crowd is very vocal. The fans in Germany are also quite loud, but still not as good as in France.

    Denmark Open is one of the most boring Super Series when it comes to atmosphere.

    England is not a great place either, but All England is always special. It's definetly a lot better than in Denmark, but far away from France in my book...
     
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    :cool: That I have to agree with. The stadium is also perfect in terms of closeness to the court, same as Jakarta for example ... (but the french crowd is rowdy at Roland Garros as well)

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    In contrast to something like the Korean Open who are vying for SS premier status where the spectators are miles from the court ... like those football stadiums with an athletics track in between. Likewise the last world championships in India, surprised they could even spot the players out there :D.
     
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    Why not USA

    Why not in USA? The same place where World Championship 2005 was held and claimed huge success. I always wonder why the promotion of this sport in US is so poor, I think we have enough fan support for team China, Malaysia, Indonesia, ... and where can you find more neutral fan around the world than the melting pot of US?
    I think fan in US has been eagerly waiting for the next big event since 2005, hello, where's the marketing people?
     
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    the reason is "money"

    any nation who wants to host, has to apply first. Then if there are more than 1 applicant, BWF has to choose one.

    Why Thomas cup has not been held in europe? Simply because no european country applied for very long time.

    then why european countries haven't applied? Because the host nation has to submit big money to the BWF. European countries' organizers cannot profit from hosting Thomas cup. They can hardly get subsidized either from their governments.

    While asian countries either got subsidized from their governments, or profited from tickets and ads, or both, so they can afford to host the Thomas.

    Malaysia and Indonesia wanted to seperate TC and UC, therefore, they can profit from hosting TC alone. They expected UC held by CHina badminton association which heavily subsideized by communist government. Unfortunately, this idea doesn't work.
     
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    Do you think TUC is more expensive than the Sudirman Cup then?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudirman_Cup

    Or maybe that's just it: a whole lot more european countries participating in the Sudirman compared to the TUC so SC over here and TUC in Asia ;).
     
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    why Europe countries can afford host Sudiman cup?

    The reason is still the same : Money.

    I have pointed out that the biggest difference between TC and SC is that TC has limited number of players while SC has big number of players. Then instead of ticket money from audience, SC can profit from hotel accommodations for the foreign players. Not only players, but also journalists, news reporters, all those traveling expenses are quite a lot revenue for local business, therefore organizers can get money from local government and business communities. Look at last SC at Scotland, it was held in an abandoned warehouse, they don't need audience. Their business model was the number of players, teams members and reporters.

    But this model doesn't work for TC.
     
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    yeah, but stadium putra is not like that:rolleyes::D
     
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    How many courts can the French stadium fit?
     
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    who is thomas and sudiman??
    uber is their wife???
     
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    4 courts at most
     
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    Thanks badders7. I was thinking you need at least 4 courts to handle such a big tourney, but it seemed like it could only fit 2 courts. But then I remembered Paris is going to host this year's World Championships.
     

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