Thomas & Uber Cups Preliminaries Asia Zone 2008: Day 6 Final

badMania said:
LOL...with nothing worth discussing here, its interesting how ppl now focus on the high-fives and make it into a big issue....:eek::mad::o
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Thats alfa's.
Should be interesting to have that small issue as a topic.

Each of us hold different perceptions.So just hold to what we believe.
IT is simple.yes.simple
 
cute_tbh said:
i totally agree with you...the korean pairs, although they are called as scratch pairs; are not scratch players...they are four good and amazing players...whether they are scratch pairs or not, the chances of winning are the same...coz they are all good players...kkk/tbh in fact gained new experiences from this loss..they had the chance to actually feel how to handle a pair that they have never encountered before..the curious feelings, the doubtness..everything..they may not be in their best form when playing with the korean, but hey, it is not fair to say that based on this, kkk/tbh will fail in their every encounters with other pairs, right...(i said this coz they are people who say that "based on their performance against the korean scratch pair, they definitely unable to defend their all england title"...huhu)...and it is definitely unfair to say that the loss is humiliating...
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It is humiliating not because kkk/tbh and fuzzy are bad or lack of skills but how they underestimated their opponent once again and got beaten is rather disappointing for fans. I think KKK/TBH should have had enough lessons to learn from many of the previous defeats by unknown pairs (the Japanese and Taiwanese) and they still couldn't set their mind straight this time.

And yes, they are scratch players and that's no doubt, even if they are good player by itself, but it shouldn't be better than 2 good players that paired together for a long time. Especially PSH, it is obvious that he got into wrong position many times but the Korean still managed to win the game.

Anyhow, congrats Malaysia for winning 1st place and hope they will do the same in the TC final.
 
Wong8Egg said:
It is humiliating not because kkk/tbh and fuzzy are bad or lack of skills but how they underestimated their opponent once again and got beaten is rather disappointing for fans. I think KKK/TBH should have had enough lessons to learn from many of the previous defeats by unknown pairs (the Japanese and Taiwanese) and they still couldn't set their mind straight this time.

And yes, they are scratch players and that's no doubt, even if they are good player by itself, but it shouldn't be better than 2 good players that paired together for a long time. Especially PSH, it is obvious that he got into wrong position many times but the Korean still managed to win the game.

Anyhow, congrats Malaysia for winning 1st place and hope they will do the same in the TC final.
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Pretty good observations... I started to believe if any Men single players who paired up with a "usual" double player (eg : LD + CY or PG + MLH etc) can have no problem to defeat them. Which in other way I believe it wont be happened for other top pairs like MK/HS or FHF/CY..
 
Very good effort in id-ing the people...

hcyong said:
I can't name all the Korean & Japanese girls in the photo (see bottom http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=52597&page=29). Can someone fill in the blanks or correct me?

KOR:
(top left to right) Coach, Lee Kyung Won, Lee Yun Hwa?, Hwang Hye Youn, Jun Jae Youn
(bottom) Coach, ... (Ha Jung Eun, Kim Min Jung, who else)? can't tell one from another, Lee Hyo Jung

JPN:
(top left to right) Coach, Park Joo Bong, Miyuki Maeda, Yu Hirayama, Eriko Hirose, ?? (singles or player?)
(bottom) Kaori Mori, Aki Akao or Tomomi Matsuda?, AA or TM?, Suetsuna, Reiko Shiota, Kumiko Ogura
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..hcyong, you pretty much had everyone correct for the KOR squad..:cool:
For the JAP squad, Yu Hirayama should be the one on the far right. I don't know who is the gal standing next to Ms. Maeda.
Bottom row, should be KM, Ms. Suetsuna, Ms. Masuda and then Ms. Akao...and then of course, everyone's, @ BC, fave..;)
yannie, (where is that young lady), mind filling in the rest of the forgotten ones..:p;):)
and event should be able to id the KOR squad players, even coaches/managers, with a blink of an eye..:cool:
 
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ctjcad said:
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..hcyong, you pretty much had everyone correct for the KOR squad..
For the JAP squad, Yu Hirayama should be the one on the far right. I don't know who is the gal standing next to Ms. Maeda.
Bottom row, should be KM, Ms. Suetsuna,
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She could be Imabeppu........I could be wrong
 
JPN:
(top left to right) Coach, Park Joo Bong, Miyuki Maeda, Kaori Imabeppu, Eriko Hirose, Yu Hirayama
(bottom) Kaori Mori, Satoko Suetsuna, Tomomi Matsuda, Aki Akao, Reiko Shiota, Kumiko Ogura
 
Exactly. I think PSH is not a good doubles player, he is kind of too slow. But the Mas pair really sucked in the 1st game. WCH and XXZ are better than PSH when playing doubles.

samuel882 said:
Pretty good observations... I started to believe if any Men single players who paired up with a "usual" double player (eg : LD + CY or PG + MLH etc) can have no problem to defeat them. Which in other way I believe it wont be happened for other top pairs like MK/HS or FHF/CY..
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about park sung hwan,i think he did have a future in doubles.what is his age actually?Thats can be a factor.

Like how Wch n Th got potential in doubles.i mean they played doubles n then,win...
That sounds good.But they are too late to be 'juniors' in doubles
 
samuel882 said:
Pretty good observations... I started to believe if any Men single players who paired up with a "usual" double player (eg : LD + CY or PG + MLH etc) can have no problem to defeat them. Which in other way I believe it wont be happened for other top pairs like MK/HS or FHF/CY..
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long time no see this older brother.hello brother samuel!

Not every singles can play doubles.not every doubles can play singles
but that does happen.
Psh can play doubles quite well.

n kkk can play singles with a confidence.he had never played alone on court in international stage.but in certain time,i can see him played alone after let tbh stand n see his game.thats good but quite dangerous.it can affect both
of them.He need to learn when to play alone.

n about creating unexpected pairs,ask Koreans.
they did very well.i mean really well.
Not many of their doubles in world top 10 but when we are talking about producing good doubles,korea rocks man!!
 
Conversion from singles to doubles is always possible, Tian Bingyi, Christian Hadinata and Tan Yee Khan were all very good singles players.

Conversion from doubles to singles is probably not possible, the closest I've seen is Razif Sidek and Park Joo Bong. Razif won the Commonwealth Games bronze and Park was runnerup is Korea Open once, losing to Misbun. Too much space to cover, just look at how Lee Yong Dae got confused ..... :D

I thought PSH played decently in doubles, though I agree WCH is better. Then again, WCH started in doubles until Commonwealth Games 1998.
 
abedeng said:
Conversion from singles to doubles is always possible, Tian Bingyi, Christian Hadinata and Tan Yee Khan were all very good singles players.

Conversion from doubles to singles is probably not possible, the closest I've seen is Razif Sidek and Park Joo Bong. Razif won the Commonwealth Games bronze and Park was runnerup is Korea Open once, losing to Misbun. Too much space to cover, just look at how Lee Yong Dae got confused ..... :D

I thought PSH played decently in doubles, though I agree WCH is better. Then again, WCH started in doubles until Commonwealth Games 1998.
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According to either BAdzine or BWF website, PSH was some juniors doubles champ in 2002. He's just rusty aft so many yrs of not playing MD.

Would that be one of the reasons some of our BJSS players are trained in both disciplines nowadays - MS & MD or WS & WD. Arif still plays both.
So, to 'convert' isnt that hard for those who used to play doubles in their junior days.

There's also combination of MS, MD & XD, which is rare - Voluntus Indra did that but of course not in same tournament. He played MD with Arif & won some satelitte tourney in Iran.
 
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Eagle,

What I mean is, to convert and be a world beater after conversion. Singles to doubles is possible, doubles to singles is not likely. Probably due to the different fitness regime needed.

Though in the 80s, Li Lingwei and Han Aiping (two ex-Women's Singles World Champs) combined together to win Women's Doubles. But even they do not stay long in doubles.

Juniors are expected to play all disciplines, then coaches will determine what suits them best .....
 
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abedeng said:
Eagle,

What I mean is, to convert and be a world beater after conversion. Singles to doubles is possible, doubles to singles is not likely. Probably due to the different fitness regime needed.

Though in the 80s, Li Lingwei and Han Aiping (two ex-Women's Singles World Champs) combined together to win Women's Doubles. But even they do not stay long in doubles.

Juniors are expected to play all disciplines, then coaches will determine what suits them best .....
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Dear Abedeng,

SBBJ players are trained to play in both singles and doubles. They will participates in both events in the tournament that they took part.Most of them are able to achieve success in their events. Some even merge as champions for both.

From:
Ayu
 
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ants said:
KKK used to be a single player before he was picked to play doubles. He can still play.. it would be great if Lee Yong dae vs KKK in singles ehheh
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Dear ants,

I do not think that Malaysia team will field him as a single player in the major tournament. Maybe in friendly game.

From:
Ayu
 
Noridayu said:
Dear Abedeng,

SBBJ players are trained to play in both singles and doubles. They will participates in both events in the tournament that they took part.Most of them are able to achieve success in their events. Some even merge as champions for both.

From:
Ayu
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The Junior are trained in both but some are identified at very young. Its is difficult to be good at both.
 
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