Touching the net first before the shuttle lands on the floor.

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  1. kaffars

    kaffars Regular Member

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    So I was at a league match last night.
    I attempted a cross net shot from one post to the other. It was close but it didnt cross and was landing back on my side.

    As it was making its way down, they touch the net before the shuttle lands on the floor.

    I said he touched the net. He initially denies it. But then admits touching the net. But saying that the shuttle is dead/out of play as soon as it wasnt coming over.

    I thought the shuttle is live/in play till the shuttle hits the floor. So the first fault will be him touching the net.

    Then he elaborates that he has umpired matches and has read the rulebook.

    Can anyone point me in the direction of the law that says if the shuttle is not going over the shuttle is dead before touching the floor.
     
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    15. SHUTTLE NOT IN PLAY
    A shuttle is not in play when:
    it strikes the net or post and starts to fall towards the surface of the court on the striker’s side of the net;
    it hits the surface of the court; or
    a 'fault’ or a ‘let’ has occurred

    13. FAULTS
    It shall be a ‘fault’: if a service is not correct (Law 9.1);
    if, in service, the shuttle:
    13.2.1. is caught on the net and remains suspended on its top;
    13.2.2. after passing over the net, is caught in the net; or
    13.2.3. is hit by the receiver’s partner;

    if in play, the shuttle:
    13.3.1. lands outside the boundaries of the court (i.e. not on or within the boundary lines);
    13.3.2. fails to pass over the net;
    13.3.3. touches the ceiling or side walls;
    13.3.4. touches the person or dress of a player;
     
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    So it says
    'A shuttle is not in play when:
    it strikes the net or post and starts to fall towards the surface of the court on the striker’s side of the net;
    it hits the surface of the court; or
    a 'fault’ or a ‘let’ has occurred'

    What comes first then. The shuttle falling on the striker side. Or fault (touching the net) before the shuttle has touched the floor?
     
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    my 2cents says 13.3.2 comes 1st
    cos for a fault to occur by opponent the shuttle has to cross the net or have a 50/50 chance of crossing the net.
    in your case the shuttle didnt cross the net and starts falling on ur side b4 your opponent touches the net
     
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    Club games & real tournament is different.
    Ex: situation is when the shuttle fly obviously out of the court.
    On club games its fine just take the shuttle mid air & get a point from it. No one care mostly as its obviously out of the court.
    On tournament. You take it mid air & its your lose. So what must do is to let it hit the ground 1st before taking it.

    But in your case, from my perspective on strict rule tournament, it would be your opponent lose. Why, even when the shuttle is obviously fail to cross the net, as long it didnt making a touchdown or the umpire didnt makes any call, touching the net would trigger a fault. So if the opponent must touch the net(for whatever reason), then do it after umpire call or after touchdown, if not then its a fault call.

    But again club games is less strict.
     

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