Toyota THAILAND Open 2021 (S1000) : R/32-FINAL (19-24 January)

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  1. Cunning Linguist

    Cunning Linguist Regular Member

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    Fun fact:

    Momota has a record of 335-78 over his career, for Axelsen it is 360 - 132.
    That amounts to roughly 81% career winning percentage for Momota and 73% for Axelsen. In order for Axelsen to arrive at the same percentage, he would have to win about 200 matches in a row. Without losing a single one.
    I reckon it's a little more than "matchup".

    Momota hasn't been able to compete for over a year, has had a career-threatening injury, and has contracted Covid. These things surely haven't made him better. Maybe Axelsen can now win his first match against Momota. Maybe he can now even win his first tournament without Momota being injured, suspended, or ill. There is still so much water between these two that this whole discussion seems laughable.
    Which isn't surprising, as it was started by Yoji.
     
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  2. Yoji

    Yoji Regular Member

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    Axelsen won once before against Momota.

    Also i wont be bothered too much about the career victories, like you said its titles that matter. Axelsen will be feeling good this year, they are about the same age. Let them compete till the end for few more years.

    Its not Axe fault that he compete more tournaments - takeaway the injuries where Axe also cant play because of covid in 2020 (also denmark open). so its not Axe fault that he compete in more tournaments due to Momota gambling incident.

    For now, Momota still achieves more. Axelsen trying to make up for the titles. Not to forget he lost his first 6 SS finals.
     
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  3. samkool

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    ummm... can you define 'great'? their h2h is 11-4 momota.

    https://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/...33E64CC&T1P1MemberID=89785&T2P1MemberID=95661
     
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  4. CLELY

    CLELY Regular Member

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    Overall the shrieking pair Kim/Kong play better and more dynamic today, especially Kong Hee Yong who troubles a lot Lee/Shin with her lethal smashes and good placement. Kim/Kong almost slip
    in second game when their opponents save four match points then Lee SH made mistake in netshot, 21-19.
     
  5. wade

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    Lee yang is so good...if WCL can be more steady I think think they can win more titles in the future.
     
  6. Dangho

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    Must be really difficult to play lee/wang, if you lift you're screwed so you have to try to take the net but you have to deal with lee yang rushing for it like a locomotive
     
  7. ngkt67

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    TPE pair beats 2 MAS pairs in 2 finals, first Goh/Tan, now Aaron/Soh...
     
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    so far only Endo/Watanabe and the minions can beat this TPE pair...
     
  9. Yoji

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    AaronSoh still cant break their duck.. 8 Finals BWF loss in a row. Could have had 2 big titles,, it is starting to become a habit now.
     
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    since split off former Lee Jhe Huei, pair with Wang Chi Lin, they became strong...
     
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    which 2 big titles they can't win?
     
  12. wade

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    So far indonesian top 3 MD are the ones that give them trouble the most, but hey they beat ahsan/hendra yesterday.
     
  13. wade

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    Yeah but they only won super 300 tournaments, to win super 750 ++ more often WCL need to be more consistent.
     
  14. Yoji

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    AE and this.
     
  15. Yoji

    Yoji Regular Member

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    you reckon LeeWang can achieve more than LiLiu & KamuraSonoda?. They are making most of their chances, cant wait for the heavyweights to be back.
     
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    The on-fire Lee/Wang claim back to back titles in S1000 tour, they capitalise the situation when some leading names skip this Asian leg. The Taiwanese aces edge out Aaron Chia/Soh in dominant fashion, 21-13 / 21-18.
     
  17. wade

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    Yes if WCL can be more steady. they lost at the AE against kevin/marcus last year because this guy keep making stupid mistake.
     
  18. BojepJoe

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    Not true. This is H2H record Lee/Wang against top 10 ranked MD

    Sukamuljo/Gideon 3-0
    Ahsan/Setiawan 6-3
    Kamura/Sonoda 3-0
    Endo/Watanabe 1-0
    Alfian / Ardianto 3-0
    Choi/Seo 3-2
    Chia/Soh 0-3

    no H2H for Li/Liu and Chirag/Rankirendy yet. Basically they still have a losing record against all other top 10 MD except for Chia / Soh. I wouldn't say only two pairs can beat them.

    But maybe the dynamics will change after a long break last year.
     
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    WangCL is v nervous yesterday against AhsanHendra esp in G1
     
  20. wade

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    Lol how can TTY made so many mistake going long time and time again when she's playing against the drift
     
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