Unprofessional Datuk Lee

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hcyong said:
Moral of the story for LCW. Never relax. He only relaxed for 3 or 4 points. But this 3 or 4 points put the wind back in Taufik's sail. One thing we can be sure of is that LCW never intended for Taufik to catch up to 15 points (not to mention to within a point later). At 18-17, it became a test of character for LCW, which he passed. If it doesn't kill him, it will make him stronger.
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I think this is most likely what happened.
 
LCW greatly respects TH

Wildstone said:
All I am saying is that if LCW intention was good then he didn't really do a good job. In fact, he did the exact opposite and the outcome is the insult of his very good friend. Think about it, so TH should treat him a dinner to thank him by letting him win a few pity points? What an insult to a former Olympic champion. And to be honest, LCW still has not reach the glory of TH yet. TH has Olympic, Asian Games, World Championship under his belt and LCW still yet to have those. Though the level of playing is very much inclined to LCW now but TH is still considered more successful than LCW in terms of the world title he holds.
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What TH has achieved (the Olympic, Asian Games, World Championships titles), LCW greatly respects TH. LCW, himself, has said it many times before; that TH is one of the best players in the history of Badminton.

I am a fan of both both players. And I know they are very good friends. Many times, as soon as TH arrives in Malaysia, he would meet up with LCW first.

Somehow the thread starter here does not understand the relationship between LCW and TH. Is this thread trying;

* To provoke fans of LCW and TH to react/comment
* To say that TH is not as good anymore
* To say that LCW is not a good champion
* etc, etc, ......

Currently, IMHO, LCW's form is much better than TH. But don't be surprised if TH's form can be better than LCW's in the next few coming tournaments.

BTW, I am also a fan of Lin Dan (although he has gone missing at this 2011 MO SS.) ;););)
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chris-ccc said:
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Currently, IMHO, LCW's form is much better than TH. But don't be surprised if TH's form can be better than LCW's in the next few coming tournaments.
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Can't agree with your statement above, though I would LOVE to! :D
Taufik just doesn't have the wheels on him anymore to be able to last out LCW at high speed. Sadly... :crying:
But even with the limited gears, he is still among the best in the world. What a guy! :cool:
 
chris-ccc said:
.Somehow the thread starter here does not understand the relationship between LCW and TH. Is this thread trying;

* To provoke fans of LCW and TH to react/comment
* To say that TH is not as good anymore
* To say that LCW is not a good champion
* etc, etc, ......

BTW, I am also a fan of Lin Dan (although he has gone missing at this 2011 MO SS.) ;););)
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The starter is an LD fan trying to justify LD WO by comparing it with LCW v TH match
 
I place Badminton first. Players only come in second

nokh88 said:
You are the fan of all badminton players and the best fan, ever so understanding and forgiving.
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Hahaha...... For me, I place Badminton first. Players only come in second. :):):)

Why? Because there will another LCW, LD, TH, etc... in 5 years' (or more) time. :D:D:D
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The thread starter is a Lin Dan fan

Yoppy said:
The starter is an LD fan trying to justify LD WO by comparing it with LCW v TH match
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Yes I know. :):):)

We BCers here should know that whatever we have posted here will forever be archived (unless admin/moderators think that such a post is not worth keeping). :):):)

Our conversation at BC is not like an ordinary (talking) conservation. What we have posted would remain forever (to be checked by other BCers at any time in the future). ;););)
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Blurry D said:
I think Limsy got a point there and it was also mention by TH in the press conference... As long as the fans like it, I dont mind doing it..

Again it was not played like there is no competitive value. I enjoyed watching it....
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so as long as China fans enjoy it, nobody minds what Li Yongbo and his team are doing, right? why double standards?
 
I think that just by bringing up the episode you have done credibly.

It doesn't really matter what people say, it is recorded and everyone would be able to

form their own judgments.

There should be more people like that , able to think critically ,we would be much better off today if we realised that in the past

and chose to live in a denial mode today.You need to realise of course other people are entitled to their views, but not in a personal and aggressive way like a Road Bully.
 
It is sad that we live in a world where there are people with ill thoughts... LCW meant good but people just twisted his good wills... sad day for not just badminton but human beings overall...
 
jimbo said:
It is sad that we live in a world where there are people with ill thoughts... LCW meant good but people just twisted his good wills... sad day for not just badminton but human beings overall...
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don't let the one bad apple ruin the whole barrel
 
danielwong said:
just China fans?? so cruel you are...
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I think China today has grown so successful that it no longer cares what other people think of them.

But it is still true of Europe today who combined are the world's biggest economic force,more than half the world's wealth,

albeit old wealth.The USA and Japan were also like that decades ago.

You may be surprised to know that in the late 90s the china badminton team even had joint training sessions and many friendly

matches with Malaysia.LYB was then coach.

Maybe success has gone to the head but it is nothing new.

I think there is nothing to gain by showing hostility towards China, think what would happen

if they lose their patience and one day show us the same hostility.

Like everyone else I think it is better to be patient and tolerant with many things otherwise we may find ourselves even more isolated.We have enough problems domestically already without having to lose more friends.Believe me,most of us in msia have little choice but to be more open and be ready to engage the rest of the world,otherwise we will be left far more behind in other things then just a badminton sport.I think Ina is moving much faster ahead and definitely more open whilst we are more like them in their past.

But China fans have already stated clearly they love badminton because so many international players are playing and they can rub shoulders with the rest of the world, that is why Table Tennis is declining.So fans and Association may have different aims.
 
Bbn said:
I think China today has grown so successful that it no longer cares what other people think of them.

But it is still true of Europe today who combined are the world's biggest economic force,more than half the world's wealth,

albeit old wealth.The USA and Japan were also like that decades ago.

You may be surprised to know that in the late 90s the china badminton team even had joint training sessions and many friendly

matches with Malaysia.LYB was then coach.

Maybe success has gone to the head but it is nothing new.

I think there is nothing to gain by showing hostility towards China, think what would happen

if they lose their patience and one day show us the same hostility.

Like everyone else I think it is better to be patient and tolerant with many things otherwise we may find ourselves even more isolated.We have enough problems domestically already without having to lose more friends.Believe me,most of us in msia have little choice but to be more open and be ready to engage the rest of the world,otherwise we will be left far more behind in other things then just a badminton sport.I think Ina is moving much faster ahead and definitely more open whilst we are more like them in their past.

But China fans have already stated clearly they love badminton because so many international players are playing and they can rub shoulders with the rest of the world, that is why Table Tennis is declining.So fans and Association may have different aims.
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understand your kind intentions....just sad to see our beloved sport is making fans from different countries hating each others
you know what I mean, and I know those reading as well....i just want to stress, love the sport, the game and the players but please do not have hatred
 
danielwong said:
understand your kind intentions....just sad to see our beloved sport is making fans from different countries hating each others
you know what i mean, and i know those reading as well....i just want to stress, love the sport, the game and the players but please do not have hatred
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totally agree!!
 
thanks Bbn, if only more are like you...instead of seeing the real picture and actual issue that is being highlighted for discussion here. i think it is no longer meaningful to continue wt this thread.
allow me to summarize
- by openly declaring that he purposely drop points in a Final game, he had acted unprofessionally.
- even though other players may do it, but by openly declaring it in the media shows that datuk totally disrespects the sports.
- juz bcos taufik is his close fren, he purposely throw points away to make it more 'respectable'. this implies dat datuk may continue to manipulate results as long as he thinks it is alright. screw BWF and screw the rules!
- datuk may think he is a superstar now so he cld get away wt anything.
 
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