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1)Jorrit DE RUITER/Ilse VAESSEN (wr 43) beat Robert ADCOCK/Heather OLVER(wr 32) 21-18 19-21 24-22
2)Andrew ELLIS/Sarah BOK(no wr)beatMarcus ELLIS/Samantha WARD(wr 78)18-21 21-18 23-21

ws
1)Hsiao Huan CHEN(wr 110) beat Porntip BURANAPRASERTSUK(42)21-11 21-10
2)Jill PITTARD (45) beat Anu NIEMINEN(wr 39)21-14 21-14

md
1)Robert ADCOCK/Dean GEORGE(wr 78) beat Juergen KOCH/Peter ZAUNER(wr 40) 21-15 21-18
2)Hanbin HE/Junjie SUN (wr 169) beat Alvent Yulianto CHANDRA/Hendra Aprida GUNAWAN(wr 80)21-19.21-19
3)Rasmus BONDE/Mikkel DELBO LARSEN(wr 118) beat Adam CWALINA/Wojciech SZKUDLARCZYK(wr 37)21-9 21-9

ms
1)Anand PAWAR(wr 46)beat Carl BAXTER(wr 35)18-21 21-17 23-21
2)Scott EVANS(wr55) beat Rajiv OUSEPH(wr 39)21-17 9-21 21-19
3)Wei Feng CHONG(wr 53)beat Tommy SUGIARTO(wr 42)21-19 18-21 21-19
4)Kestutis NAVICKAS(wr 56) Hans-Kristian VITTINGHUS(wr 40)21-10 13-21 21-19
5)Weijie GONG(wr 63) beat Petr KOUKAL(wr 36)13-21 21-17 23-21
 
this is 1st round of qualify round....2nd round will be updated after i wake up...hehe
 
So much..

..for the hope of Alvent and Hendra AG being one of the MD contenders from INA..;)
 
All the lower ranked people are beating the higher ranked ones lol :D

Unlucky rajiv osueph - my bets that if TH beats PG he will win :D
 
Half of these can't be counted as upsets. Just because the winner has a lower ranking doesn't mean they are inferior to his/her opponent. You have to take form and country into account too. Some of the ranking differences are marginal, so to call that an upset is stretching it a little. Lastly, when you have lower ranked players duking it out, players who you can't even name, I'm not going to be blown off my chair, thinking "Oooo, now that's an upset".

Now, I'm upset ;)
 
MO Super series....finalist.......fail to qualified to main draw......sure an up - set !
 
limsy said:
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1)Jorrit DE RUITER/Ilse VAESSEN (wr 43) beat Robert ADCOCK/Heather OLVER(wr 32) 21-18 19-21 24-22
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Wow, even looking up the world ranks... it should be much hard working! :)
 
yeh..... sometimes world rankings can be a little misleading as to how many tournaments are played, good players in that tournament etc....

unless a top 10 or even top 20 loses to a no name, its not really an upset for me :p

hahahha.......... dun really think HHB is a 169 rank
 
I agree with madbad. There are even times when you can consider a higher-ranked player beating someone lower-ranked to be an upset.

However, I understand the need to have a standard of measure, and except for rankings, all measures are arbitrary and subject to personal judgement. Therefore, there is no choice except to use rankings if we want to avoid bickering.

That said, there are certain things which can be improved on.
1) State outright that your upset list is based purely on world rankings.
2) Use notional points for doubles (just see the M/Q report list released by BWF; example for AE use this). Notional points tend to be more accurate. For example, KKK/Fairuz don't have WR; according to WR, they will upset a lot of pairs, but if you use notional points, they are actually ranked higher than many pairs.
 
madbad said:
Half of these can't be counted as upsets. Just because the winner has a lower ranking doesn't mean they are inferior to his/her opponent. You have to take form and country into account too. Some of the ranking differences are marginal, so to call that an upset is stretching it a little. Lastly, when you have lower ranked players duking it out, players who you can't even name, I'm not going to be blown off my chair, thinking "Oooo, now that's an upset".

Now, I'm upset ;)
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red_dragon said:
yeh..... sometimes world rankings can be a little misleading as to how many tournaments are played, good players in that tournament etc....

unless a top 10 or even top 20 loses to a no name, its not really an upset for me :p

hahahha.......... dun really think HHB is a 169 rank
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hcyong said:
I agree with madbad. There are even times when you can consider a higher-ranked player beating someone lower-ranked to be an upset.

However, I understand the need to have a standard of measure, and except for rankings, all measures are arbitrary and subject to personal judgement. Therefore, there is no choice except to use rankings if we want to avoid bickering.

That said, there are certain things which can be improved on.
1) State outright that your upset list is based purely on world rankings.
2) Use notional points for doubles (just see the M/Q report list released by BWF; example for AE use this). Notional points tend to be more accurate. For example, KKK/Fairuz don't have WR; according to WR, they will upset a lot of pairs, but if you use notional points, they are actually ranked higher than many pairs.
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jutawin said:
If the ranking margin below 15. We cannot count it as an upset.
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for hcyong...if their wr is in bwf list...no need to use notional points...;)...
anyway...for those disagree....we already have MANY DISCUSION ON PREVIOUS UPSET LIST THREAD....PLS HAVE A LOOK THERE...:)

we have reach agreement to use ONLY WR since last year...
 
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hcyong said:
That said, there are certain things which can be improved on.
1) State outright that your upset list is based purely on world rankings.
2) Use notional points for doubles (just see the M/Q report list released by BWF; example for AE use this). Notional points tend to be more accurate. For example, KKK/Fairuz don't have WR; according to WR, they will upset a lot of pairs, but if you use notional points, they are actually ranked higher than many pairs.
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1) We already did so many times, that's why nowadays there's very few posts about "This is not an upset, cannot be considered an upset", etc.

2) THe latest WR is used, if necessary, updated when it's out on Thursday for matches before thursday. At times, even after the pair have player 2 tourneys, they still do not have WR.:D

Jutawin, if it's in the top ten, WR# 9 beating WR#2 may be considered upset by many, it's more competitive. IF we dont put it as upset, someone will complain, so we make it standard. ;)
And as I already explained bf, 5 WR difference & above is considered upset, below is listed under "Others" if I do it. LImsy doesnt put it on the list if difference of 5 WR & below.
If looking at each player strength, etc, WR#5 beat WR#3 can also be an upset, depending on who it is, debates going back & forth on this has also happened bf, especially in MS dept.

Limsy, maybe you can put that those listed today are from qualifying round, round 1 one as round 1, and so forth. Some ppl maybe will get confused ;)
 
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complete upset list for QUALIFY ROUND...:)
pls kindly point out if i miss any...:)

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1)Jorrit DE RUITER/Ilse VAESSEN (wr 43) beat Robert ADCOCK/Heather OLVER(wr 32) 21-18 19-21 24-22
2)Andrew ELLIS/Sarah BOK(no wr)beatMarcus ELLIS/Samantha WARD(wr 78)18-21 21-18 23-21

ws
1)Hsiao Huan CHEN(wr 110) beat Porntip BURANAPRASERTSUK(42)21-11 21-10
2)Jill PITTARD (45) beat Anu NIEMINEN(wr 39)21-14 21-14

md
1)Robert ADCOCK/Dean GEORGE(wr 78) beat Juergen KOCH/Peter ZAUNER(wr 40) 21-15 21-18
2)Hanbin HE/Junjie SUN (wr 169) beat Alvent Yulianto CHANDRA/Hendra Aprida GUNAWAN(wr 80)21-19.21-19
3)Rasmus BONDE/Mikkel DELBO LARSEN(wr 118) beat Adam CWALINA/Wojciech SZKUDLARCZYK(wr 37)21-9 21-9

ms
1)Anand PAWAR(wr 46)beat Carl BAXTER(wr 35)18-21 21-17 23-21
2)Scott EVANS(wr55) beat Rajiv OUSEPH(wr 39)21-17 9-21 21-19
3)Wei Feng CHONG(wr 53)beat Tommy SUGIARTO(wr 42)21-19 18-21 21-19
4)Kestutis NAVICKAS(wr 56) Hans-Kristian VITTINGHUS(wr 40)21-10 13-21 21-19
5)Weijie GONG(wr 63) beat Petr KOUKAL(wr 36)13-21 21-17 23-21
6)Weijie GONG ( wr 63) beat Tanongsak SAENSOMBOONSUK(wr 41)19-21 21-16 21-14
 
upset list of 1st round in ae 09....:)...kindly point out if i miss any...:)

ms
7)Marc ZWIEBLER(wr 33) beat Boonsak PONSANA (wr 12)14-21 21-15 22-20
8)Sho SASAKI(wr 24) beat Przemyslaw WACHA(wr 9,seeded 8)21-15 22-20
9)Ville LANG(wr 28) beat Dicky PALYAMA(wr 23)14-21 21-10 21-18
10)Jan O JORGENSEN(wr 34) beat Choong Hann WONG(wr 14) 21-13 21-15
11)Weijie GONG(wr 63) beat Arvind BHAT(wr 27)21-19 22-20

ws
3)Nanna BROSOLAT JENSEN(wr46) beat Susan HUGHES(wr 27)13-21 21-16 21-17
4)Youn Joo BAE(wr 40) beat Salakjit PONSANA (wr 33)21-18 17-21 21-18

md
4)Yi Goo KWON/Yeon Seong YOO(notional point will be wr 28)beat Michal LOGOSZ/Robert MATEUSIAK(wr 10)22-20 21-17

wd
1)Chiou Hwee HAW/Pek Siah LIM(wr 49) beat Jwala GUTTA/Shruti KURIAN(wr 24)21-9 19-21 21-18

xd
3)Bo ZHENG/Jin MA(64) beat Chen XU/Yunlei ZHAO(wr 47)21-14 21-13
4)Flandy LIMPELE/Anastasia RUSSKIKH(notional point at wr 30) beat Zhongbo XIE/Yawen ZHANG(wr 9)16-21 21-18 21-17

other(defeat player less than 5 rung above them in wr)
Larisa GRIGA 3
Kasper/Christ 3
Anders KRISTIANSEN/Simon MOLLYHUS 3
Shu CHENG/Yunlei ZHAO 1
 
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