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Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by Yoppy, May 2, 2011.
Yes, you're right, but at his back, no V logo. Blacked out. Sudirman,SEA Games, and TUC.
I don't agree here. He was also partnered with great players and never became a serious player in XD. If he were such a great player, he should also be successful in XD like KSH or even SBC. I think even with the last 3 partners JJS, KSH and YYS he didn't played with mediocre and random guys. I don't want to disrespect him, but in doubles you play as a pair and should always credit both players equal. He is a great player and legendary no doubt, but also his partners made 50% of the success as a MD pair.
Before we raze down this thread in flames.....
You forgot which discipline he got his Olympic gold from? XD.
He was successful in that era, winning a few SS, until he decided to focus on MD, and Lee Hyo Jung retired.
So.... man I'm just... flabbergasted by that statement...
World #1 with 3 different partners in 3 years. His partners don't seem to have reached that same pinnacle without him.
Agree with your disagreement which is why I said he seems out of place in the legends vision, because he's a doubles specialist inducted into the singles group, as he's only one half of the equation. The other half of the credit has to be given his partners too, but they are not in the Yonex family. Maybe then... Legends double vision. Setiawan/Ahsan to start?
He did win the Olympics gold with Lee Hyo Jung in the mixed doubles. But his career notably centers round men's doubles. Going XD and MD is all fine and good (ZhangNan/Yunlei, KSH/KHN), but as you know tough because it takes a heavy toll on the person doing double duty. It's a short term commitment as I see it, eventually one has to choose either for the long run. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Lee was paired with excellent players no doubt (and perhaps fortunately so?), but you don't get to be in the world's top 5 with just any partner no matter how good, on a consistent basis. He did that with several partners, common equation.....him. Just saying. But yes in MD, 50-50.
Also, let's not forget that KSH and YYS were playing together before they got split up for LYD.
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Before I forget:
Aaaand to anyone not knowing this, Yonex hosted a "The Legend Korea" last year, 2015 featuring the doubles medalists over the years. Park Joo Bong, Kim Dong Moon, Ha Tae Kwon, Ra Kyung Min....
So seeing LYD probably in 2017's iteration of it, not impossible if they do hold it again. They know where to focus on, this cheeky evil empire.
Also, let's not forget that every athlete has a peak in his career and that a doubles pair is a synergy which works well together or not. People develop, people change, people learn. It's not static. I don't try to small LYD's career I watched him live in stadium several times and supported him here. He is a great player, but he didn't hit every stroke on the court in his career. He is a special player typus IMO, who work with a wide area of players which made the success of the pairs, but I doubt that if any average MD player (>30 rank) would partner him they would also go 1.
The only such example I could think of would be Tony Gunawan.... And he is the first person that comes to my mind as a Yonex Doubles Legend.
Let me clarify. I meant how Tony Gunawan paired with Howard Bach to win a world championship. Not to discredit Howard Bach but he was relatively unknown prior. Like others have said, it also takes good chemistry.
But Tony Gunawan has played with many top Indonesian players and then with Howard and continued to have success. I'd put him at a higher pedestal in terms of Men's doubles success.
LD was also not part of yonex in his greatest moment though, just up beijing olympics
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If we count his titles up to 2009 and in 2016, it should be pretty equal to the results in the gap from 2009 to 2015. Never the less, I liked his playing style and attitude in his early days and also in these days everybody knew that he will write history. LD was pretty consistent for a long time.
LD was on a Yonex AT700 series in the early days yes?
The prodigal son has returned...
Probably just broken my beloved MX-JJS It has a massive crack. My (very experienced) stringer just noticed it and told me that he's not going to restring it, because the racket otherwise will be broken. Still not sure how and when that did happen :-S
However. I'm not really into the new Thruster and Jetspeed-Series. I guess the former replaced MX- and the latter the BS-series? I'm curious which model is similar to MX-JJS (3U) - I liked its balance and "MX-feeling". Is JS12 anywhere smiliar to MX-JJS?
Realistically speaking. If you liked the MX feeling. You can forget about the JS, TK and HX lines. They feel nothing alike. You could find something that plays similarly but don't expect the feel to be the same. The JS12 is somewhat close but it isn't as stiff and the head is a touch bit heavier. But the good aerodynamics make up for the extra head weight.
You'll never get the metallic clangs anymore in the latest range bro. Victor has moved on.
I think maybe the Hx800-Power comes close to a JJS though. You might want to give it a swing in store.
The Meteors were made by Fleet so just get a Fleet
To add to Maklike's recommendation if I remember correctly the Yehlex 3900X (Fleet ???, forgot the model name) is supposed to be very similar (if not identical) to the Meteors in frame shape and specification. Not sure about material/ feel as I have never tried one out. Sorry that I can't remember the Fleet model name, but Yehlex and fleet produce the same rackets for different markets under different names. Maybe someone else can remember?
As for similar to Meteor range the Hypernano range replaced the Meteor range. I was kind of hoping they would be similar ish to the Meteor range but from what people are saying this isn't the case :-( I know the Thrusters I tried a while back were much more head heavy than one of my MX80s and it was on the head heavy end of all the MX80s I had/ tried.
Honestly. Why buy a fleet when you can get an XP70 from Eric.