[VIDEO] Jeffrey Personal Singles Progression Thread

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    Hey there, my name is Jeffrey and I've played badminton ever since highschool. I trained a lot and it was a big part of my life in those years. Since going to college, I stopped playing to focus on my studies and getting internships. After I graduated though, and started working, I've found myself slowly gravitating towards badminton again, which is very exciting! That being said, I was very analytical back in highschool, and loved studying clips of Lin Dan and comparing them to my recordings. Since I started again, I thought I'm rediscovering that joy that I had almost 8 years ago! I'm starting this thread to document my progress as I move forward now.

    Anyone following, tips and pointers would be greatly appreciated. As I post updates, I will also write my own thoughts in case anyone is wondering. I can also post some clips I recorded back in my highschool days too! One of my biggest regrets is back in highschool, when I decided to quit, I deleted a lot of the videos I recorded, so there's a bunch of progression videos that I'll never be able to watch again :/ but that's life haha. But please, feel free to join me on my journey!

    Index
    [April 2019]
    https://www.badmintoncentral.com/fo...ngles-progression-thread.180725/#post-2742955
    [August 2019] https://www.badmintoncentral.com/fo...ngles-progression-thread.180725/#post-2742957

    Latest Progress
     
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    @ultimatedbz

    Nice videos Jeffrey.

    Been watching your channel. I like the way you present your content.
     
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    @Cheung Thanks for your kind words! Please let me know if you have any suggestions/feedback :)
     
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    When you defend on the backhand, your grip is inefficient and the face of the racquet will face upwards. So when the shuttle hits the strings, it will naturally rebound too high. Not a problem until you get to the players who can smash giving the shuttle more speed!

    Try receiving the smash with a slightly more backhand grip and keeping your other actions the same - that small change might solve your problem of the shuttle passing back too high and a bit slow across the net. You can still receive forehand smashes OK with that type of grip.

    When you go back to China, I suggest 1.5h sessions :) Made a big difference for me in quality of training, slightly longer rest periods meant I could focus on techniques a little more rather than the feeling of being a bit rushed.
     
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    Yes!! First, i did notice that my racket faces upwards, this was really apparent after I started doing drills to try to fix this. I think it's a combination of backhand grip and also just rotating the forearm so that the racket faces more forward?

    And yeah that's a great point :) with one hour, there was like, 10 minutes warm up, and then 50 minutes of intense training that got pretty tiring. It's a good point, 1.5h would allow me to rest in between and work on less tiring things like working on my control/touch. Thanks for the feedback @Cheung :)
     
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    Things I noticed
    • When I pedal from FF to BB, my initial step back with my right foot can go farther back
    • My form in the back right corner looks off, with racket coming in
    • I have trouble receiving drives to my back hand
    • I smash a lot to the middle, right into the opponent's racket
    • My high serve return isn't great. It's really inconsistent, and I don't get back to the middle fast enough for the next shot
    Timestamps
    Vs. Wes
    • [0:42] [1:51] [2:16] [2:47] [2:57] [9:28] [10:32] When I pedal from FF to BB, my initial step back with my right foot can go farther back
    • [3:40] [9:20] [9:30] BR form still looks off, with racket coming in
    Vs. Tim
    • [1:07] [3:08] [6:44] [8:12] [10:19] [10:36] Trouble receiving drive to my back hand
    • [8:48] [9:38] Smashed to the middle
    • [9:18] [10:26] [13:09] High Serve Return sucks
    Vs. Paul
    • [1:29] [4:17] [12:21] [23:19] [24:21] [25:23] [29:37] [30:00] [31:22] Bad return to drive to backhand
    • [8:22] [9:14] [10:19] [12:26] [16:10] [23:59] [24:48] [25:14] [27:57] BR Form is off with racket facing in. This happens a lot, especially when I don’t have much time
    • [9:46] [12:23] [17:05] [19:10] [26:21] Smashing to the middle, to his racket
    Vs. Chetan
    • [7:09] [18:51] [19:41] When he whips the birdie crosscourt when I smash to his backhand, it catches me super off guard
    • [11:02] [11:52] [12:23] [19:38] BR form
    • [1:36] [3:29] [7:02] Smash to center to his racket
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    Past Videos
    12/8/18:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtQIq6s2lVE
    10/14/18:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTLk6cW8Ao
    January 2014:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCWE1yBuB4c
     
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    It's been a while since my last post from April, things got really busy with vacations and work, but I think I still did improve, and I tried to capture that by reviewing my recent matches and analyzing them!

    In this video, I went to spar with some people at Synergy Badminton Club. (Howard Bach coaches there!) I got pretty destroyed, but I was able to experience badminton at a faster and flatter pace, against people who were really consistent and hit quality shots... they got everything I hit to them!


    In this video, I spared with a few friends at my local badminton gym. Paul from the first video also came to spar!


    And here's an analysis of my level as of August. I'm excited to get working on the three things I highlighted: Staying on my toes, improving my backhand clear/drop, and getting used to a flatter and faster pace.
     
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    I watched the synergy sparring video. I can't tell that you have a strategy when you play. I feel that you are just hitting the shuttle over the net with no purpose. I think for you, a good strategy is to try to create opportunities to attack. This is because I don't see that you have very good defense, and your skills are not that good. But your smash, compared to your level, is good. The two main ways to make opportunities to attack is to spin the shuttle and they have to lift high and slow (net close at your level may work too) or to net far and anticipate the push.
     
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    Thanks for the advice! Yeah, I didn't have much of a strategy because they were so fast and I was just trying my best to keep up. I think those two points are solid and I did try doing them. when spinning the shuttle, they would either spin it back tighter, or life to the far back. When netting far and anticipating the push, even if I anticipated right, the shot I hit back wouldn't be a quality shot haha I definitely think I need to have more of a purpose with my shots, while also working on getting used to playing at a faster pace :)
     
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    I'm a beginner and often I'm able to play better vs players 25 years younger than me as vs players 15 years older than me. Why ? Because the younger players make a lot more errors, just like me.

    Watch your own video and count how many points did you lose because of a winning shot of your opponent or because you made an error.

    A good start to win more points is to play more safe. Your opponent do a lot of misstakes too, just play safer, don't try to force a winning shot and you will automatically gain more points.
     
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    It's common to spin the shuttle when you receive the short serve. You can try that. Something I noticed is that your transition shots are pretty good. But what is the purpose of a transition shot? It is because you can't smash, but you want to maintain the shuttle going downwards. Also, the name transition suggests that you are transitioning to attack. But after you hit the shot, you're constantly in a defensive position.

    You also take too many transition shots. Most of the time you could have did the china jump on the forehand side, but you opted to do defensive footwork and lost any offensive pressure. Another thing is that you don't turn your body enough for the overhead side.
     
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    Can you elaborate on this.

    As far as I know, you should spin only when you take the shuttle close to the net. When I watch the videos, he is roughly 3m away from the net when receiving a service.
     
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    It's possible, we just have to step up and catch the bird closer to the net. The shot won't spin like crazy, but it will spin when it leaves the racket, lose speed, and drop close to the net. Not sure if that's what asadafgs meant though haha The speed of the shuttle is too fast and far for the serve, so there's a limit on how much we can spin it.
     
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    Yup this. Actually the bird will spin quite a bit. You will be able to spin unless your opponent serves very far
     
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    That's a fitness and strength issue.

    If you see this happen in a game to your opponent, you can assume he can't take shuttles early in this area which gives yourself a little extra time.

    @ultimatedbz

    That's a feature of your play. You move pretty well, good strokes but you lack the sudden first step acceleration to change the pace and put pressure on the opponent. You have put more focus on techniques in this thread but you do look like more conditioning work would benefit greatly.
     
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