VIVO BWF SUDIRMAN Cup 2015 : Day 4 - Group Stage Matches (13th May 2015)

[chowyunfat]

The current Spore team is the worst ever, no fighting spirit, no stamina, no technical skill especially Derick Wong. Derick Wong, Danny Bawa n Vanissa Neo don't deserve to be in the team. All show no improvement after so many years.The coaches must also take the blame, training not tough enough, advise during game interval not good either. The current Spore team & coaches need a big overhaul.

 

[gopalprasad]

For obvious reasons I explained repeatedly, badminton, and many other sports won't ever have the level status as the tennis, soccer, golf, boxing etc. It's up to one's made belief to take this reality or ignore it.

I don't see it as any responsibility of one single nation to upgrade the level of competitiveness of this sport, badminton, or any other things in this world. It will be up to each nation to strive to increase its competitiveness. Japan is a good example, they invest in Park Joo Bong for extended period (indeed for how many years have they been hiring Park), and I believe, pour in lots of cash in its badminton to grow it.

I don't think TT or badminton is facing any threat to be removed from Olympics. There are still many much less popular branches there that they'll have to deal first before dealing with TT or badminton... in fact those branches that only come into our notices once every four years. Needless to say, not only TT or badminton that needs its inclusion into Olympics, but Olympics also need popular sports to be included to attract viewers & other interest. Do you think how many population are really interested to watch those Equestrian; Fencing; Modern Pentathlon; Canoeing; Rowing; Taekwondo; Triathlon; Water Polo; and so on?

A fan of badminton will remain watching it for enjoying the superior skills of the players. It's up to each perception whether one will enjoy more the match of two so so skillful players cuz they come from different nations or a match of the highest level even though they belong to the same nation. Just ask any friend of yours who watch TT, were the finals between Ma Long vs Fang Bo or Ding Ning vs Liu Shiwen in recent WTTC anything less spectacular?

And in reality the China's dominance in badminton is not such overwhelming to the extend that other nations are unable to compete at all. We watched Japan took the TC last year. Such sheer dominance of theorized reality is simply not there, a nonexistent idea.

I am sorry I guess I was not able to explain myself. I want to see rivalries in badminton. Yes we see CHN as one and so far a LXR vs WYH or a CL vs LD doesnt comes across as rivalry. The rivalries badminton world is able to publishize are TB vs CHN, SN vs CHN, CM vs CHN, IR vs CHN, TTY vs CHN cause even in singles it comes across like CH plays as one. There is no fault in that from CHN per se as a nation but consider if it frees and lets all its reserve players to compete in tournaments all the top 10 or more in all disciplines would be them. With tennis or athletics if it starts happening that only USA starts winning every discipline in athletics and not just one discipline of it. Or Russia started with an army i tennis and started winning evry discipline, MS,WS,MD,WD,XD in all the ATPs GS consistently. I agree with Kwun the cause has because the players havent been able to come out of shadow of the nation and even in SSP we consider the players more by their country which is the reason.

 

[gopalprasad]

the problem is that badminton players are so tied to their nation they represent. this is why this discussion even exists. no one, i mean, zero person complained when Sampras and Agassi rivalry was practically dominating the tennis pro single tournaments, even though those are technically USA vs USA matches. did you complain? did you say, "who wants to watch USA vs USA matches anyway?" so why moan about China vs. China or Jamaica vs. Jamaica?

if one day we can see badminton players as individuals instead of where they come from, see them with their personal characters and technical merits, badminton will be a much better world.

100% agreed to this. Badminton is plagued from this crit, Nations should leave their tight control in the individual tournaments atleast which should be open for all to compete like a grand slam and the players are on their own then only we might see this kind of turn around. The nation can have their say on the team championships and believe me there are many for the takings for their investments we have one team championships every year + the Olympics the Asian games for the nations to rejoice.
I am not sure I would have enjoyed the Sampras vs Agassi if the US Tenis Association literally controlled them, paid them & catered to their trainings and travel expenses
Similarily I am not sure, I believe, I see the same quality when I see matches of players from the same country aka Saina Nehwal vs PV Sindhu, a JYJ vs SJH, LD vs CL or a LXR vs WYH even if they compete hard it just doesnt seems fair since there are the same set of people who control these players and in a away are benefactors of the outcome of the matches. yes there are exceptions and some quality matches played amonngst them too still.

But how many players can pull it on their own expenses for individual participations and expenses? if it is left to them, with so little money involved in it Alas!
I hope the game generates more or gets more investments to change such things...