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Discussion in 'Chit-Chat' started by Cheung, Apr 9, 2008.
For Cooler, Pete and others.
No healthcare system is perfect. What's your problem with yours?
Here are some problems with healthcare in NewZealand..
-*Some* honestly dumb doctors/GPs: My little sister got chickenpox from school two years ago, then I got it.. in the beginning, I just had them in my back so I went to the local GP and I was told that I just had a really bad achne..
-Inefficiency.. for anything.. the processing of the patients to the tools they use. The syringes for vaccination are awfully big. They hurt, while the one I tried in Japan for influenza.. wow.. it was so fast that I couldn't even feel it.. well, the doctor injected it without my awareness.
Well I guess, many things in NewZealand are slow and inefficient.. probably because everyone likes the slow, relaxed, the so called 'life-style' way of living.
-Prices for health care are not value for the money.
is it a public health care ie. funded by the government?
Yes, public health care. Well at least.. I get free physiotherapy at school, which is funded by the government so I dont have to pay anything..
u will, when u start working
In Australia, the government is importing doctors from china and india to fill the shortage of doctors here. I went to a chinese doctor that came to Aus a few weeks ago and i asked for a vaccination. He took 5 times to inject me properly. Why can't the Aus gov use doctors from Australia or increase the number of places in Medicine at uni?
..that'll be the last visit you'll have with him??..
In the UK i would say:
1.The GP referral system takes too long, and you only get treated quickly if you have sometihng serious, the majority of GP's simply say come back if it still hurts in a fortnight, then you might get referred taking minimum 6 weeks, then treatment takes even longer.
2.GP's Wages are astronomical for their work type IMO
3. The Huge sums of money invested in Healthcare do not seem to have improved the quality of treatment or service at all.
4.The Reluctance to find the cause of the problem, but simply reverting to the easy option to get asround the problem
Health care in UK is mostly free, but prescription charges and optional medicines are charged for. It is indiscriminate to Nationalities/Immigration status as well
..i wonder if this same practice applies to most if not all UK/British-based governments (e.g. in B.C.~Canada, Australia and HK or even Malaysia)??..
This is the problem with USA public healthcare.....
Hi James, I agree with what you've said although the last paragraph isn't quite right. Broadly speaking, primary healthcare (eg GP's, dentists) have a discretion but must provide care that is reasonably necessary. Secondary treatment is more restrictively provided and so foreign nationals may have to pay for x-rays, scans etc
Having moved away from UK, I find I've been asked to consider coming to Australia many times but it is just so remote...
Badminton is available in Melbourne, Australia
Hahaha... Cheung, I've asked you to come here too.
Why worry about so remote? Badminton is available in Melbourne, Australia.
BTW, our Australian healthcare system can use your service too.
Yes, it does exist. It is call MediCare. It really sucks. Private doctor will take Medicare is if you have another supplemental insurance to cover the difference or they are doing it out of the good ness of their heart. Other wise, you wait for 1~2 hr. get to see the doctor for 5 min for any problem you have and see you later in ER when you are serious. Also you can go to county hospital and wait for 2~4 hr to see a ER doctor and wait for another 2~4 hr for your free med. That is if you are not dead yet.
My problem is money. How much do you value your health? Can you put a price on your life? Will you pay $300 to see a good primary/internal if he can figure out every issue you have and refer you to a good specialist? In case you need a good surgent to fix you heart, how much will you pay? Another issue is, would you like to pay for it all at once or pay for it over time? I feel it is important to have a safty net (public health insurance) and you have the option of op out of it for upgrade (private health insurance). You pay for what you use.
1 last thing, when it is your time to die, will you just let it be and die? ie When you are 80 year old and have a stroke, will you tell the ER doctor to just let you die with repsect and not to revive you and find out your are half brain dead?
Will you pay $300 to see a good primary/internal if he can figure out every issue you have and refer you to a good specialist?
US$300 for quick and accurate diagnostic is worth the money if one suspects something serious.
In case you need a good surgent to fix you heart, how much will you pay?
Open heart surgery easily costs US$100,000. For someone in their thirties with congential heart defects, I think money should be secondary to their potentially long-life ahead.
Another issue is, would you like to pay for it all at once or pay for it over time?
For most people, financing and upgraded insurance are the only option. Just look at orthodontic treatment: the patient pay a series of monthly payment directly to the specialist.
Dear Peter the Great,
I know I am suppose be working right now. And I am at work and pretending I am working at my desk. Are you suppose be studing for you class right now?
i think peter is actually stringing and surfing bf and pretending to be studying
That is a neat trick. I should have learn that trick way back then....:crying:
here our health care costs