what kinds of trick shots?

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  1. AzNl3oi89

    AzNl3oi89 Regular Member

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    hey i was wondering what kinds of trick shots you guys use when you are playing, for example making it look like your hitting it right and actually making it go left...im just curious....:)
     
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    this guy that played for my high school team was like learning new trick shots every week. he goes behind his back, between his legs, between his legs with his back facing his opponent. my favorite on he did is if you cross court net him, he'll walk up to the shuttle and cross court it back between his legs.
     
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    What I do relatively well is returning a smash 'behind my back' (instead of using the backhand)
     
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    i suck too much still to do trick shots well... hahaha
    me from san diego too! UCSD to be exact [​IMG]
     
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    Trick shots are a mix of deception and bad habits, each has different types of shot which can fool people but do they get you the winner?

    Things like hitting through legs and behind back seem to be the worst offenders becasue you are not aiming to play a winning shot from them, you are merely returning a difficult stroke from out of position.
     
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    Even in professional play, trick shots work occasionally. But that's the key word: occasionally. Very, very occasionally.

    In almost all cases, the player who uses a trick shot will lose the rally. Maybe not immediately, but in a couple more shots. Trick shots are usually a sign of desperation; they are a crowd-pleaser, but they hardly ever win rallies.

    But note this: I'm using a different definition of "trick shots" to AzNl3oi89. My definition is similar to the definition of jamesshieh88 and Maz. We seem to define trick shots by their unorthodoxy.

    Deceptive shots, by contrast, are an important part of any good player's game. Learn to distinguish between those shots that are genuinely deceptive (like racket-head fakes, body and arm fakes, double motion, lifts from the net with a short backswing, various slices), and those shots that are only a gimmick. The truly deceptive shots will be a deadly addition to your game; the trick shot gimmicks will be a novelty that might win you points against an inexperienced opponent, and will soon be anticipated. Deliberate trick shots win you a few cheap points, but better opponents will make you regret them.
     
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    I've hit the odd smash behind my back from desperation, but I've never practiced it. I'm as surprised as my opponent when I hit it.

    The one shot I use is a slice net shot off my backhand side. When someone hits a drop shot to my back handside I'll make like I'm to hit a lift (a full swing) and at the last second I'll stop short and slice across the bird. It produces an evil spin that makes the shuttle travel away from my opponent towards the line. I used to hit it all the time, but people got used to it, so I use it only a couple times a match.

    I also use a type of flick/drive that is hard to describe (I had to see it on tape to get a real grasp on how goofy a shot it is). When some one hits an off the net drop I make like I'm going to hit a net shot back (arm extended out in front of me), but at the last minute I roll my wrist such that I hit a flat drive/flick to my opponent's back hand side that lands about 3/4 court. I use it in singles for points and in doubles to set up the attack.

    On tape it appears that I'm doing two wrist rotations (it doesn't feel that way when I hit it). It's not so much a trick shot as a deceptive shot I use.

    Once I did a forehand that I came over the bird like I was hitting a top spin lob in tennis and hit a cross court. Totally fooled my opponent. Came over the net and took a nose dive like there was a turbo fan blowing down over the court.

    Never been able to hit it again...:crying: .
     
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    how do you do those kind of shots. i see a lot of people do it but i still can't get the technique down.
     
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    Try slicing the shuttle: hitting it with an angled racket face rather than a flat face. This makes it go in the direction of the racket face, and takes much of the speed away from the shot. With practice, you can move your arm (shoulder, body...) in one direction, but angle the racket face in the other direction.

    A good example is a reverse slice dropshot. You appear to hit the shuttle quite powerfully, and your arm movement is right-to-left (for a righthander). But the racket face is angled outwards, and you slice across the shuttle. The result is a dropshot to your right (their left), when they were expecting a smash or clear to your left (their right).

    If you do this well enough, you can even make the dropshot serve slightly, and reach the net more quickly than a normal dropshot with the same trajectory.
     
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    That video of Gade doing the cross court net is the trick shot that i find the most easy to execute. Twisting your arm and then hitting a net shot to your backhand with the forehand side. hard to explain. Suprisingly easy to get a tight shot that goes right to the outside line. I've never really tried behind the back or between the legs.
     
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    Can anybody do that trademark hold and flick shot of peter gade's? It's not a normal hold and flick shot cause it looks like a double action or something. He plays the shot at 6-5 in the 1st game of his match vs lin dan in 2004 AE final if you don't know it. Any tips on playing this shot?
     
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    gade's back hand trick is pretty simple technically, but realli hard to get down in terms of timing. all he does is hold his racquet still for a moment, as if he isn't even swinging, then right before he realli hits the shot, he'll bring the racquet forward a bit, then back, then swing forward and hit the shuttle for real. throws your opponent off but it'll take tons of practice to perfect.
     
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    I've managed to execute Gade's trick shot at training at a success rate of 1/100! :D

    I agree with Gollum and admit that my 'behind the back' shots are more of a bad habit (crowd pleasing bad habits!!!) than a trick shot (or deception). My preparation for receiving a smash is relatively awkward now as I tend to drop my racket so that it's ready to move behind my back.

    Even though I keep executing those shots successfully, my typical opponents are aware of this habit and start smashing to my forehand, which is relatively weak in comparison to the 'behind the back'!
     
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    Tricks!!! Badminton tricks

    Who noes how to do badminton tricks like how to fake or sth like that??? :confused:
     
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    *BUMP* 360 backhand jump smash.
     
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    i can lei.but dont use it during match maybe training la.
     
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    lol show me next time in training which is 2morrow
     
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    Just a thought.

    I personally don't regard trick shots as any good, especially when it comes to serious matches, or training to improve. They are sometimes a crowd pleaser and fun to watch/perform.

    You can invent a number of them yourself.


    If you meant deceptive shots, that's entirely a different aspect, and a very useful one, if mastered, though difficult to. For that you can search the forums.

    ;)
     
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    Also deception is something that is quite individualistic and personal because it is based on each persons technique, no two people have quite the same deceptive shots.
     
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    my pe teacher can hit it behind the back in fact he always does, if you hit it to his forhand clearing corner and then hit it to the round the back corner its faster for him to run there and hit it behind his back. in fact he does it 100% of time
     

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