which SMASH is more powerful? standing or jump!

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  1. timmehtong

    timmehtong Regular Member

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    Doesn't really matter if smashing is powerful or not. When I'm playing against many players in a couple opens before. I'm smashing left right and to the front. All my opponents have time for is to run and lift. What's more important than the power of the smash is the control. If you can learn to control a smash it's a lot more powerful than a powerful smash. Though it be nice to have both. Control to smash it near the front and not in the back is a much harder task so when i started to train smash I started to train left right to the back and then eventually it got faster and stronger and then I could smash to the front. So I guess what i'm trying to say is. Practice smash control and your smashing will become more powerful as you learn to control it better.
     
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    Alternative Ending

    If you can't jump really high and you're determined to fold your legs, then this sequence will follow:
    1. you fold your legs
    2. you execute your smash
    3. you land on your kneecaps
    4. you hear a loud crunching sound
    5. you play chess for the rest of your life :)
     
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    the problem is that it's not that easy to time a jump smash. especially if it's coming vertically down towards you. if it was flatter, and you leaped to intercept, that's easier. but when it's coming straight down, it's not that easy to time perfectly. a normal smash, on the ground, is a lot easier than a jump smash. if they were the same difficulty, then you'd see people leaping up and down everywhere, which you don't. the only true people with decent jump smashes are pros or top provincial players. and they don't get that jump smash just by doing a "smash while jumping". it takes a lot of practice.
     
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    ur getting warm. Too many only see power as the most valued skill which of course hold back their development. They even own rackets that yield maximum smash power but lacks in other attributes. I bet there are tons of players who can smash harder than fu haifeng but yet can't even make it to the provincial team. With short (proper) training, i believe most intermediate players can defend a reachable 250+ km/hr smash. It's much harder to learn to intercept a sharp angled or accurate 150 km/hr smash.
     
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    As I've said elsewhere:
    If power were king, Arnold Schwarzenegger would have been Badminton Champion Of The World. :cool:
    Instead, he's now just a sorry governor :p
     
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    I bet there aren't. :p
     
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    I'm not saying power is a good thing. I'm saying controlling over the bird and your opponent is the more important. I'm still young and some players in my division smash a lot. Even though their smashes are fast and strong I'm controlling the bird over them. I let them smash and they're way to tired from smashing so much. Control always overrule power. But control and power is nice
     
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    ahh, that i think, is not so true. after all, who is the world number one in men's singles right now? and i think it'd be safe to say his trade mark, besides speed around the court, is his effective jump smashes. you can't avoid attacking, just like an army will never ever win by simply waiting for the opposition to take the initiative. the best is probably a mix of both. attack and defend.
     
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    Like chess. Use offense as a defense
     
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    or as General G. Patton said, "Grab 'em by the belt, and kick 'em in the ass!" :D:D:D:D
     
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    Um, badminton players don't wear belts :D:D:D:D

    ... but Taufik does wear a back brace :p
    maybe that's what Lin Dan grabs him by :rolleyes:
     
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    that would be a one HUGE wedgie:eek::eek::D:p:cool:
     
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    what wedgie? where? :mad:
    back brace, cooler :D... not underwear :p
     
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    well, at least not the new players. recall either Zhao Jianhua or Joko Suprianto wearing a belt at the 1990 AE finals :cool:
     
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    I have notice the difference between doubles smashing and singles smashing.

    Many double players especially from China and Malaysia smash by jumping and racket held way back at the head and turn the shoulder and arm like a baseball pitcher. This is more like a single way of smashing. Of course it gives more power to the smash.

    The Indonesians especially, Rexy, Nova and Tony hold their racket flat at 45 degrees in front of the chest. They would jump and just before they smash the racket would swing to the back at 90 degress or a little higher and using the weight of the racket and downwards movement of the racket to hit the smash.
     
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    To put it simply:
    In singles, your post-smash momentum must propel you forward - so that you can get to the (usual) blocked return at the net
    In doubles, you need to regain balance as quickly as possible - so that you can move sideways to fire off the next shot (while your partner covers any blocks to the net)
     
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    i wouldnt say 1 is more POWERFUL then the other. but i use the jamp smash as it is more effective. (steeper angle of attack)
     
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    I think both smeshes are power, Maybe when u jump & smesh is more power cos you are using your body weight & back plus your arm & wrist...
     
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    I think jump-smashes increase power by a bit, but allow you to smash at a steeper angle so the opponent(s) will be unable to block it, or at least net it if they're nonhumanely fast enough to catch it.

    I smash all the time but I rarely use jump-smash... Conserves energy until the time for a jump-smash comes.
     
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    welcome to BC.............:)
    and yes, jumping smash is more powerful and faster the shuttle.....
    steeper, difficult for opponent to block and counter attack, further pressure opponent to make error.........:D
     
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