Why did LHI win/LD lose?

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Guys I think this time it is really worth discussing, since this is LD's first loss in team event after he became 1st single. And also LHI is not the guy ppl expect to beat LD.

It seems to me:

1. LHI successfully took the 1st game from LD AND with some energy left. Many ppl are able to beat LD in the 1st game by being very aggressive. But then they do not have enough energy left in the rest of the games. Taufik is currently the only one who has the ability to beat LD in 2 games (CH used to have this ability, but now he is kind of too old), but he failed to take the 1st game and his energy is not enough for 3 games.

2. First game lost, LD is forced to come back storming in the 2nd game. There is nothing LHI can do about this. The key is that he did not panick (compare to JJS/LYD, when Cai/Fu exploded and caught up in the 1st game, they lost their confidence). He cleverly started to fight at the end of the 2nd game, when LD was somewhat tired (LD is still human). He did very well at the end of the 2nd game and totally got back his form and confidence.

3. In the 3rd game, LD did not have enough energy to explode all the way like in the 2nd game. LHI hit the shuttle to all four corners of the court to further tire LD up. LHI showed great technique and fabulous defence during the 3rd game, moving LD all around the court, forcing LD to smash in very bad positions. Finally LD lost his confidence (for the first time since last year's WC) and made a bunch of errors.

So, I don't know how but seems LHI improved by half a level and is now among the top 3 (with LD and Taufik). LCW hasn't recovered from the WC loss and Gade is no longer the Gade 7 years, or even 3 years ago.

Finally about who can beat LD and how. CH used to be the only one who can beat LD by power attacking. Taufik used to be able to beat LD by moving him around using superb technique, especially backhand shots (you have to be able to continue dominating and manoevering LD even when you are forced to play backhand shots, PG fails here). LCW almost beated LD using defence (HK open). Now LHI joined the club and beated LD IN TEAM EVENT combining what Taufik did and what LCW did.

Congrats to number one! ( I heard some Korean ppl calling LHI "number one" during 05 WC, dont know why though).
 
Simply because LHI did his homework well! Being able to beat LCW and then LD in a row, his form is just superb. He use to lose easily to both players this year, but im sure he studied their game hard enough during the few months. Congrats to LHI!
 
No offense, i wonder if his lost to the Veitnamese player is a fake? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Or maybe its a strategy from the coaches?
 
well..for me..above all things....this proves that LD is still a human too...so he is not unbeatable....:D :cool: congrats to LHI.....u've done very well:)
 
BMcentral said:
cause he have a good performance and found LD 's weakness.
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I always supported Lee Hyun Ill from the start(before he had injuries). He has very good skills and an unbelievable amount of stamina as is left handed like me :).
I knew he had it in him to beat Lin Dan, but was surprised it came at such a good timing.
Three cheers for LYI!
I hope Lin Dan improves further(not be complacent) to maintain his dominance as it will only get tougher ahead with more money and incentives involved in the super series in 2007. If not, we shall see more players beating him soon.
I hope this will improve the quality of the games we shall see in the near future.
 
LHI's form has been great since WC. In fact he lost to BCL partly because of bad luck (3 dubious calls in 4 points).

zqloy said:
Simply because LHI did his homework well! Being able to beat LCW and then LD in a row, his form is just superb. He use to lose easily to both players this year, but im sure he studied their game hard enough during the few months. Congrats to LHI!
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LD will have a chance to re-match in the individual event, they may meet in the QF.

I didn't watch the game between LD and LHI, I wish I did, so that I can give my perspective ... if anyone has the video, please kindly share it ... :cool: :)
 
Congrats to Lee Hyun Il, rarely see Lin Dan get beaten in this kind of situation....

BTW, reloaded this page a few times, and everytime there's a new post... wow u guys and gals are fast!
 
If you want to beat Lin Dan, you must win the 1st set and have enough energy for the 3rd set.
If you lose to Lin Dan in the 1st set, the probability to win the game is very very low.
This is what I found from the statistics.
 
This is one of the few times that i have seen LD tired in the third set... probably because of the two consecutive exhausting match with TH... even if TH won against LD, TH wouldn't stand a chance against LHI's stamina...
 
I don't think it's stamina. LD was very frustrated towards the end of the 3rd game. The possibility that he may no longer be a 100% reliable 1st single made him more exhausted than the game itself I guess.

bic33 said:
This is one of the few times that i have seen LD tired in the third set... probably because of the two consecutive exhausting match with TH... even if TH won against LD, TH wouldn't stand a chance against LHI's stamina...
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In my opinion, LHI is a more stable player compared to LD..
"On form LHI" able to perform less unforce error compared to LD..
LHI net control is much better than LD during that match..

So conclusion is LD just made too much unforce error during that match as mentioned LYB few minutes ago during post match interview:)
 
you guys should now that some players have a VERY PEAK FORM..may be it is LHI's day...LD is doing well eventhough he played alot...like 2 times 3 sets against TH...sometimes..even yu are the bEST...you may have a very bad hair day and you can suddenly BLANK for no reason but remember that Korean players are known very Stubborn and China is always afraid of Korean's fighting spirit...look at recently Junior WC where they are bleeding to win matches..it is amazing !!!...I think LD, CH< CJ, BCL,PG TH, LHI and LCW are top players...depending whose mentally is ready...all are beatable at any time at any day
 
LD has said previously (IE two years ago) that LHI is the type of player he hates to play against.

LD Likes to control the pace of the game and alter from the slow defensive game to the attaking game to finish the rallies. LHI isa total control player and so LD cannot slow him down anymore, and when LD tries to increase the pace with a shot then LHI slows it down again.

I have not seen the game but from LD style and how hee likes to play is not conducive to playing LHI. Sure LHI has lost many times to LD but he has also had some long drawn out games with him. This time he happened to win it.
 
Wc2005

As a matter of fact, in WC2005, Lin Dan was really tired up by quarter final with LYII (2:1) and then by PG (2:1) before the final game. That's how he lost so badly to TH.

When I was watching LD play against LYII in WC2005, I could feel his frustration overLYII being so patient and well-defended.
 
congrats to LHI on beating LD :crying: sad and suprised :D :p 1st time LD lost in team matches when he's 1st singles :( I hope it will never happen again :D
 
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