Will Zheng Bo get flamed on chinese badminton forums for AE SF loss?
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just watched the video too. Ya, i didn't find the tantrum and is considered out of line however, for a jr, encouragement would help ma jin instead of the negative approach from ZB. I think ma jin played a bit better than the korean gal at the beginning but ma jin but just lack confidence and netting alot which is predictable, she could of net kill alot of the shots.I watched the 3rd game and couldn't find any tantrums thrown by Zheng Bo to Ma Jin. However, the meltdown occurred most likely after the 2nd game and continued into the 3rd game. Unlike in the 2nd game, where Zheng Bo was still giving high fives and pats to Ma Jin, i didn't witness any signs of support from Zheng Bo in the 3rd game. Both seemed to be standing on their own, on a different island.
Throughout the 3rd game, Zheng Bo sure had that grumpy and upset look and it affected his (and to an extent) Ma Jin's game, as it was basically errors galore for both of them out there.
Yes, the coach did scold Zheng Bo during the interval of the 3rd game.
..the coach wasn't LYB, but another coach.
Btw, for those interested to see what happened, if you haven't read the Finals thread, another member has posted video links to the Semifinals matches. No download necessary but need to install MS Silverlight.
*Btw, CTF and ZJW were the co-hosts.
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there are alot of praying done by others already.On you knees and pray, boy!
george@chongwei
Regular Member
who??Sorry for the rant but the commentator is f*****g annoying
Gillian
?? or Poul-Erik Høyer Larsen?
ctjcad
Regular Member
Hmm..
Anyway, we'll see how things develop between those 2 players in their upcoming tourneys.
..well, for sure, even if we're not the Chinese badminton forum, we all can see what kind of responses have been given, so far..1 more question is: why get flamed on chinese badminton forums as the thread title says it all??
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..yeah, i was gonna mention that. Communication was key and it was lost. Ma Jin was like trying her best to "showcase" her fore-court game. While ZB was also kinda doing his own thing. No communication et al. Even Poul Larsen kinda mentioned that. Of course, it got worse in the 3rd game. In one play, early in the 3rd game, Zheng Bo got so upset that he lifted an underhanded clear so far out. Partly, frustration for how game 2 ended.
Anyway, we'll see how things develop between those 2 players in their upcoming tourneys.
who??
Gillian
MAS commentator. Yap, yap, yap, yap...
ya, look at Zhao ting ting, it took almost 2 years of pro circuit. Now she is doing pretty good...well, for sure, even if we're not the Chinese badminton forum, we all can see what kind of responses have been given, so far..
..yeah, i was gonna mention that. Communication was key and it was lost. Ma Jin was like trying her best to "showcase" her fore-court game. While ZB was also kinda doing his own thing. No communication et al. Even Poul Larsen kinda mentioned that. Of course, it got worse in the 3rd game. In one play, early in the 3rd game, Zheng Bo got so upset that he lifted an underhanded clear so far out. Partly, frustration for how game 2 ended.
Anyway, we'll see how things develop between those 2 players in their upcoming tourneys.
george@chongwei
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yourbestfriend
Regular Member
i haven't watched the game yet, but i think there is more than meets the eye.
they are a relatively new pair, i believe they've done pretty well since their partnership, regularly reaching the SF's and finals. i mean, they beat lee yong dae and his partner twice this week so for you people who said that he should be dropped from the national team is just retarded.
if he indeed was throwing "temper tantrums", i'm sure there is some reason for it. maybe he must of woken up on the wrong side of the bed? we all have bad days, relax guys. i'm sure li yong bo and crew have already talked with zheng bo about his on court behavior and i don't expect it to happen again. i guess we'll have to see how he and ma jin play at the swiss open
they are a relatively new pair, i believe they've done pretty well since their partnership, regularly reaching the SF's and finals. i mean, they beat lee yong dae and his partner twice this week so for you people who said that he should be dropped from the national team is just retarded.
if he indeed was throwing "temper tantrums", i'm sure there is some reason for it. maybe he must of woken up on the wrong side of the bed? we all have bad days, relax guys. i'm sure li yong bo and crew have already talked with zheng bo about his on court behavior and i don't expect it to happen again. i guess we'll have to see how he and ma jin play at the swiss open
oh, shocked me little just now..
do u mean zainal abidin rawop??
Sorry, no idea. I even heard some football scores during the commentary
It's quite a provocative fact that Ma Jin played a terrible game.
But I wouldn't agree that Zheng Bo did the right thing by turning on her.
In the Mixed Doubles final at the 2000 Olympic Games, Indonesia's Tri Kusharyanto & Minarti Timur won the first game 15-1 against China's Zhang Jun & Gao Ling before going down 13-15, 11-15 to them.
So poor was Timur's play throughout the Games that Tri-Kush's performance probably ranks as one of the greatest ever in Mixed Doubles.
In the final, he played almost single-handedly against ZJ & GL - and note that this young Chinese pair was then good enough to make short work of the legendary Korean pair of Kim Dong-moon & Ra Kyung-min (15-11, 15-1) in just the second round.
Sadly for Indonesia and Tri-Kush, almost every easy kill that he set up for his partner was flubbed by Minarti Timur. It was the same with net opportunities - they were spectacularly botched.
It came to a point where Tri-Kush began playing alone - but, by then, the divide was too great to catch up with the well-coordinated Chinese pair.
The incredible thing here is that NOT ONCE did Tri Kusharyanto blame, scowl at or upbraid Minarti Timur. He just played on as if nothing had happened to upset the balance!
What a contrast with Zheng Bo
But I wouldn't agree that Zheng Bo did the right thing by turning on her.
In the Mixed Doubles final at the 2000 Olympic Games, Indonesia's Tri Kusharyanto & Minarti Timur won the first game 15-1 against China's Zhang Jun & Gao Ling before going down 13-15, 11-15 to them.
So poor was Timur's play throughout the Games that Tri-Kush's performance probably ranks as one of the greatest ever in Mixed Doubles.
In the final, he played almost single-handedly against ZJ & GL - and note that this young Chinese pair was then good enough to make short work of the legendary Korean pair of Kim Dong-moon & Ra Kyung-min (15-11, 15-1) in just the second round.
Sadly for Indonesia and Tri-Kush, almost every easy kill that he set up for his partner was flubbed by Minarti Timur. It was the same with net opportunities - they were spectacularly botched.
It came to a point where Tri-Kush began playing alone - but, by then, the divide was too great to catch up with the well-coordinated Chinese pair.
The incredible thing here is that NOT ONCE did Tri Kusharyanto blame, scowl at or upbraid Minarti Timur. He just played on as if nothing had happened to upset the balance!
What a contrast with Zheng Bo
To be fair, the coach's expressions may have put unnecessary pressure on ZB/MJ. There were many shots of him with a "black", exasperated face. I swear he was going to self combust at any moment
Just curious:To be fair, the coach's expressions may have put unnecessary pressure on ZB/MJ. There were many shots of him with a "black", exasperated face. I swear he was going to self combust at any moment
Why must 'black' be equated with 'angry' and other such unpleasantness?
Why not 'white', exapserated face?
ctjcad
Regular Member
Since..
..Ma Jin is a junior, he was probably targeting Zheng Bo as the black sheep..Talk about everything going wrong for Zheng Bo..Noticed at the end of the match, the coach was comforting/patting Ma Jin..To be fair, the coach's expressions may have put unnecessary pressure on ZB/MJ. There were many shots of him with a "black", exasperated face. I swear he was going to self combust at any moment
There's a moment at 6-5 in the rubber when MJ pushes the bird long. The camera shows ZB swinging his racket in frustration and spouting something angrily. He wasn't afraid to hide it either. This must have been so discouraging to MJ. Some impatient gestures follow as they prepare to receive serve.
ZB's grumpiness commences at this point. CHN begins to unravel and KOR picks up a pile of points on errors. ZB then gets a scolding from the equally frustrated coach at the interval. I think at this point the red mist has taken hold of ZB and he is unable to focus or execute properly. From here on the deterioration of the CHN duo is spectacular. You can see the coach comforting the crying girl as ZB exits stage left.
ZB's grumpiness commences at this point. CHN begins to unravel and KOR picks up a pile of points on errors. ZB then gets a scolding from the equally frustrated coach at the interval. I think at this point the red mist has taken hold of ZB and he is unable to focus or execute properly. From here on the deterioration of the CHN duo is spectacular. You can see the coach comforting the crying girl as ZB exits stage left.
Just curious:
Why must 'black' be equated with 'angry' and other such unpleasantness?
Why not 'white', exapserated face?
I don't know. It's a Chinese expression.
Loh
Regular Member
That was the only AE match that I watched. Quite a coincidence.
I thought ZB was doing quite well and their team could have won in straights but they were unlucky during the last few points of the second game, if I could recall correctly.
It was in the decider that ZB lost focus and was dragging his feet. He must have been very frustrated with himself and no thanks to perhaps some harsh words from his coach that he blew his top and completely gave up. with some rather uncharacteristic returns.
On the other hand, the young Korean pair which I have never seen before except the girl probably playing WD, saw the disarray in the CHN team and took advantage and applied more pressure to end the match quickly.
I thought ZB was doing quite well and their team could have won in straights but they were unlucky during the last few points of the second game, if I could recall correctly.
It was in the decider that ZB lost focus and was dragging his feet. He must have been very frustrated with himself and no thanks to perhaps some harsh words from his coach that he blew his top and completely gave up. with some rather uncharacteristic returns.
On the other hand, the young Korean pair which I have never seen before except the girl probably playing WD, saw the disarray in the CHN team and took advantage and applied more pressure to end the match quickly.