Wuhan BAC Individual Championship 2020 - Should it be cancelled?

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  1. stanleyfm

    stanleyfm Regular Member

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    This might out of the usual topic, but I have huge concern on the well-being of the people affiliated with BAC 2020 (players, coaches, officials, fans).

    Following the outbreak of the newly found virus, reported for the first time in Wuhan, have there been any followed up from BA to maybe cancel the event this year or to replace it to somewhere else?
     
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    High possibility it'll be relocated to another country.
     
  4. Cheung

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    I agree that this is the best way. It will take at least four or five months to control the virus.

    Perhaps 9 months after the control has been done, we will see mega events in Wuhan for promotion (not just badminton).
     
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    I’m sure it’s being discussed. There are many precedents from 2003, most notably the women’s World Cup.
     
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    They need to relocate it to some other country or cancel it
     
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    No question, even if they somehow choose to continue, I can’t see which association (apart from CHN) would risk their players health to attend the tournament
     
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    Last I heard, Wuhan is locked down on quarantine. There surely won't be any BAC happening.
     
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    About 3000- cases now which they broadly underreported. If Beijing is in lockdown, means CHN players will not be able to attend international event . Say Olympics or AllEngland.

    More tragic is the death of Kobe Bryant. Legend always die fast. Talent is a gift from god and he will take it back..

    so many things have happeend in January around the world .. even in Badminton..
     
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    They can only reliably report the confirmed cases.

    The true rate would be higher because some ill people will not go to hospital (only mild symptoms), or waiting to be diagnosed (test results not available or lack of staff). Then again, some people will have fever and not be infected with this virus. Statisticians give a best estimate based on assumptions.
     
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    touch wood. Pele and Maradona are still around. MJ, Kareem, Magic are still around.
     
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  12. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

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    How do you know they underreported the number of cases, which changes every day? Your source of information, please cite it, otherwise, kindly rein in your anti-China rhetoric on such a serious and tragic matter of which the Chinese are the main casualties.

    As reported in SCMP, dated 24th Jan, https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...hina-coronavirus-spreads-all-two-34-provinces :-
    "Zhong Nanshan, a key figure in China’s response to the devastating 2002-03 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, will lead a group of scientists researching a “joint prevention and control working mechanism”, the Ministry of Science and Technology said.

    The 83-year-old respiratory medicine expert was already leading the National Health Commission’s (NHC’s) task force investigating the virus."

    I mean, Zhong Nanshan, with the backing of Xi Jinping, has days ago come out to say there will be transparency in handling the outbreak as reported here https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...transparent-about-wuhan-outbreak-virus-expert :-
    "Dr Zhong Nanshan, whose team is advising the leadership on how to handle the crisis, told a news conference in Guangzhou on Tuesday that China had not held back information in reporting the outbreak in Wuhan, which has sickened more than 300 people across the country since early December."
    "Zhong cited the involvement of Professor Yuen Kwok-yung, a top infectious-disease expert at the University of Hong Kong, as proof that Chinese leaders understand the importance of transparency in handling the public health emergency."
    Zhong said that Yuen’s participation should help allay concerns among that China would cover up the epidemic or was reluctant to share information.
    “There are people in Hong Kong who believed that China would not report the infections truthfully,” Zhong said. “But Professor Yuen has now participated in a number of our major meetings [about the outbreak] including the one chaired by Vice-Premier Sun Chunlan and he (Yuen) had even offered some suggestions in the meetings.”
    “He has very good ideas of what’s happening in China,” Zhong added.
    “So he has taken part in our highest level of discussions and he has knowledge of how we are handling the situations,” Zhong said. “[This] also enables us to have relatively good cooperation with the authorities in Hong Kong, both in the government and technical levels.”
    Regarding criticism that Wuhan had been slow in publicizing information about the outbreak, Zhong defended the municipal government, saying that local officials had tried their best to report suspected cases as fast as possible and that they could only confirm cases after test results had been verified by higher authorities.

    More https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...china-efforts-and-transparency-on-wuhan-virus :-
    WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President Donald Trump thanked China on Friday (Jan 24) for its "efforts and transparency" in tackling a deadly virus that has triggered a vast quarantine in the country.

    "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus," Trump tweeted, hours after the United States confirmed its second case of the Sars-like virus that has reached half a dozen countries.

    "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency," he added. "It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"
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    Personally, I find it strange, even cavalier of you to say, "More tragic is the death of Kobe Bryant". Why is one famous person's death any more tragic than that of thousands of other ordinary folks? He died in a helicopter crash, together with eight others who included his daughter. The innocent thousands who died of the coronavirus infection were mostly going about their daily business without even realizing they were exposed to it until it's too late.

    Please, it's hard enough as it is for the relevant Chinese authority, especially the National Health Commission headed by the 84-year-old Dr Zhong Nanshan to fight the new virus, to maintain transparency and avoid causing unnecessary panic, so any unwarranted rumours is the last thing anybody needs to make the situation worse by creating fear and distrust that convinced the general public to believe the government is downplaying the severity of the outbreak, you can imagine the terrible consequences of that. Don't underestimate the fear factor which can unnecessarily complicate an already bad situation. Spare a thought for the medical workers who are in the thick of action and risking their lives to save lives.

    All citizens must stay calm, stay united to fight the epidemic.
     
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  13. Justin L

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    I last checked the BWF Tournament Calendar - The Badminton Asia Team Championships 2020 will be held in Manila, Philippines, 11-16 February.
     
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    This could be sort of blessing in disguise too.
    If it's cancelled, players will get more rest without worrying about the points.
     
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    As for the Badminton Asia (Individual) Championships 2020 to be held in Wuhan,21-26 April, which is also the last stop included in the OG qualification period, the BWF will have to look into the matter and come up with a solution soon.
     
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    Do you really have to bring Kobe accident into this talk ? Was it necessary to compare one accident to other ? Both are tragedies. It's meaningless to compare one tragedy to other.
     
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    You're doing the same thing. Come on man. Why comparing both tragedies ?
     
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    Huh? Is that how you understand the import of my post? Please get it right before you respond.
     
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    This whole post gets a big LOL from me.

    I'm in China and I can say that the response around the virus is much worse than the actual virus. Are the numbers under reported? Probably, because like Cheung said, a lot of sick people don't want to go to the hospital, it also has a 2 weeks incubation period so we will know for sure 2 weeks later.

    But I can tell you that a lot of public transportation, in all cities, has been shut, stores, movies theaters, malls etc have been ordered to shut (besides supermarkets) and to enter any indoor space you are required to have your temperature checked and be wearing a mask. Even most public parks are closed to prevent people from gathering in the same place.

    It's a flu during flu season, so it will spread easily until it warms up a bit, but so far the statistics are encouraging. The HUGE majority of the dead are people who are elderly or have pre-existing health conditions. Even in this short time healthy people are recovering quickly and children seem less prone to get it than the normal flu which is all good signs.

    But I have no doubt they will cancel anything in Wuhan as that city is on severe lock down. Many organizations, exhibitions and what-not are also cancelling events that are being held in China over the next month or so. We'll see how long it lasts, but I'm pretty confident that after April/may things will return to normal.

    It's not a thing where everyone is dying and the streets are littered with corpses and the gov't is keeping it secret. lol
     
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