Yonex Astrox 100ZZ

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  1. Ch1k0

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    I like this already.

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    So you didn't had it in your hands? Right? So your statement is based on the impression from other people you """know""". And even they had it just in their hands. And isn't it related to the user which racket out of your stated ones is better? There is simply no reason to say something like that. The players who can wield a hh and xstiff racket is not high, even if many think they can. So how could it be better in general when it is more a cup of tea thing?

    It would be fair if you argue why my statements are nonsense. Sorry to say, but your posting was stupid. One day you will realize.
     
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    I would agree with ucantseeme.
    Racket is very personal like love. You might like it but not others & what others like might not your taste. Saying it definitely better, well... For you might be but for others might not be.

    I like my TK770 even tho its totaly heavy like 99gr & with BP above 300. But not many of my friend like it. Also im not much like my AVP despite so many good review & fame but its really not my taste.

    Also newer never always better than previous. For me its not about better or greater or anything, but new racket for me is a new baby, new product, another entity that join the world racket collection with all its uniqueness that feel different from others. Like you, me, & new born baby. It just different person. Does it better than the old one? No one know until it get in our hand & see if it call for our name to let us unleash its full potential.
     
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    let me rephrase I what I meant....those who liked the 88d, will love the 100zz, and those who didn't, idk.
     
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    Native Vietnamese speaker here, the majority of his points in the vid are correctly mentioned here and I'm only adding a few things:

    - Drives,Clears, Net play, and Defense is comfortable and easy.
    - Fast swing speed but there is definitely a lack of punch as proven by the swing weight.(worse than both the AX 88's)
    - There's no noticeable vibration/feel (don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing).
    - ZZ is slightly better for smashing (302 bp vs 300 bp)
     
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  6. Budi

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    so whos here who love the old VT80 yet dislike the old but newer VT80ETN, rise your hand...
    Sorry, but really it doesnt work like that. Yes you might like it & it happen you like 88D to, but not the case for everyone that like 88D will love it like you do.
     
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    Personally, I have no issue with your post. I can just chalk them up as your own opinion without you indicating it. But I think what would help is to state that (they are just your opinion) out loud in your post next time.

    That being said, I definitely agreed with the reasoning behind why your statement could be a problem. Players with less experience might wrongfully interpret what you said as a statement or fact when experience players know that rackets are really a personal thing (what they like vs what actually fits them etc).

    I also want to say that, for those who have more experience, do reply to such post with positive response meant to educate or inform. Let's spread more positivity but do have friendly banter here and there. :)
     
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    Isnt ZZ head heavier than 88d? How come the swing weight is lower than 88s?
     
  9. Ch1k0

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    Black magic? It is possible the sample units are very light too.

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    I also wonder, based on the Yonex Racquet Chart, ZZ is near similar to ZFII
     

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  11. Ch1k0

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    Just to be clear for all. The matrix is bullshit most if the time

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    Not really, I'd say it's the opposite. Maybe Yonex overcompensated to the lighter side this time since last time they overdid the head weight of the 99 at launch.

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  13. Ch1k0

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    Then that still makes it bullshit then based of sample set of one. If I follow the matrix I'd expect it to play similarly to the ZFII to some degree but that's clearly not been the case so far from a few early reviews.

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    Lol... then the problem lies in the intro demo sample, not the matrix...

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    That too. But still. We know by now to never bother with matrices. It's just simpler to buy and try if you really want to scratch that itch.

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    New racket


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    My guess is probably because of the slimmer shaft, dont know tho how much slimmer the shaft is, as its not available yet
     
  18. ucantseeme

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    Question is what was first? I think it was more "let us produce such a type of racket" and then they placed it in the chart due hopefully any data and measurements. I don't think that the chart is first and then the production don't reach it.

    I agree with @Ch1k0 . Just look at the Astrox 00. A 2F racket so head heavy placed? Same was with the Voltric FB which was headweight wise far below 40g of head weight, but placed high in the chart. Comparison across different weight classes of a difference by 25g in a simple chart is bs. IMO they needed to place each racket which come in different weights twice in the chart.
     
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    Where is the prove for this relation being transitive? When talking about math, do it right.

    And yes, I am looking forward for a (fun) prove! And as long as nobody around here has actually tried the racket on court, it's the most interesting thing going on around here.
     
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    What he did is called sarcasm.
     
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