Yonex DENMARK Open SS Premier 2014 : Players by Countries

Completely wrong analysis and taking that as granted !!!! Lol. Pity

 

Chen Long has a bit more sense of humor and personality. He tugged in his shirt after been fault in serving.

 

Can't scroll horizontally to view the table in full

AlanY, I am NOT able to scroll Right-Left to see your table in completeness, the rightmost column(s) is (are) out of view, I can only scroll Up-Down, tried it using both Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome.

 

Very strange here. At very beginning, I posted my observations as following :

I don't understand why my posts lead to scorpion1's reactions as following:

Are Indians or Indian players forbidden topics or what? Very strange.

 

can you read the following:

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[TD] [TABLE="class: grid, width: 332"]
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[TD="width: 35"]SF[/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"]Total[/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]MS[/TD]
[TD]WS[/TD]
[TD]MD[/TD]
[TD]WD[/TD]
[TD]XD[/TD]
[TD]R32[/TD]
[TD]R16[/TD]
[TD]QF[/TD]
[TD]SF[/TD]
[TD]Final[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CHN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]KOR[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DEN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]INA[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]IND[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JAP[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]THA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FRA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TP[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HK[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VIE[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]EST[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]IRE[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ENG[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BEL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BUL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]POL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCO[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SIN[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]160[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]40[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

Sorry, should be the number of survivors in the final, not semi.

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[TD] [TABLE="class: grid, width: 332"]
[TR]
[TD="width: 35"]SF[/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"]Total[/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]MS[/TD]
[TD]WS[/TD]
[TD]MD[/TD]
[TD]WD[/TD]
[TD]XD[/TD]
[TD]R32[/TD]
[TD]R16[/TD]
[TD]QF[/TD]
[TD]SF[/TD]
[TD]Final[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CHN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]KOR[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DEN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]INA[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]IND[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JAP[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]THA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FRA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TP[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]HK[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VIE[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]EST[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]IRE[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ENG[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BEL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BUL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]POL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SCO[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SIN[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]160[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]40[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

Ofc it is not! Not even scorpion1 will say like that.

And I don't see anything wrong in your above posts, aside from pointing out the realities that happened in this tournament.

 

YES 2cents, I can see your tables in full, the differences, they are NOT put under the [formatting]

Code:

...

, I believe there are some flaws with the bbs app.

 

LOL... I'm not trying to be a judge here, but IMHO you only state the facts (for example, Indian did not meet seeds player in the previous round, etc) and I don't think anything wrong with your points here because they are more like stating current facts or maybe prediction... Hahaha

 

Thanks friends for understanding. I knew politics and religions were forbidden, but didn't know specific ethnic groups or race cannot be mentioned either.

This just reminding me a while ago, in Asian games, after I comparing badminton medals' percentage in the total medals, I concluded that Indian's badminton medals weighted relatively higher than Korea and China in the national sports but lower than Indonesia and Malaysia, and therefore I grouped India, China and Korea in the same group after Indonesia and Malaysia group.

That's just my personal observation, but lead to some netters here (their locations as India) extremely angry. I don't know why either.

In the future, I will remind myself extremely cautious when mentioning India.

 

You can talk anything you want but you need to give correct analysis. Not like this. You said "indians met lower ranked opponents" that's why they won.. As if they don't win over higher ranked opponents. Dont ever underestimate the players you mentioned. I want to remind you. They have very good record against many good players in the world(according to you , "higher ranked" opponents.. lol). So, if you want to tell something, dont blindly talk something like that.
You said " All indians look ominous" - in which way?. Did they say that they are worrying about the matches ?.
so, the conclusion is you can say your analysis or thesis or whatever. But dont be general without looking their previous records against "higher ranked" opponents. If they dont have any record at all, I can accept that indians won the matches because they did not meet so and so. But they have plenty of instances indicating their capabilities.

 

I think you make your own defensive assumption here 'As if they don't win over higher ranked opponents". That is your assumption, and 2cents didnt even mention it in his statement. In my opinion, 2cents did not underestimate any Indians player there in his statement "Indians met lower ranked opponents", he was just stating the facts that Indian players met lower ranked opponents.

However, I have to agree with you in 'All Indians look ominous' statements. This statement looks more to opinion than the facts which is not supported by the data.

 

Well said! I apologize that if 'All Indians look ominous' not appropriate. The reason saying that was that I felt excited that I found the pattern:

In the eighth finals, all 4 Indians met lower ranked players, but
in the quarter finals, all Indians had to face higher ranked players. What a coincidence!

That's the reason I was worried whether all Indians can beat their opponents in the quarter finals. Is this an underestimation towards Indians? I don't think so, at least I didn't mean that.

 

Well, I am not in the place to accept your apology as I'm not offended with your statement 'All Indians look ominous'. Your statement was appropriate for an opinion but was not appropriate for fact category.

Your worried whether all Indians can beat their opponents in QF did not mean that Indian players look ominous. Again, I don't think you are trying to underestimate Indian player here, its more like your personal opinion and I'm personally fine with that.

 

I don't understand the big deal. Yes, I think 2 cents' ominous comment wasn't really right. But, why make such a big deal?

As for me, the favorites going in the quarterfinals were:
1. Saina vs WSX
Saina. Simply because her style of play suits against WSX. Though WSX is ranked 2, she faces problems against any attacking player like Saina and Sindhu, against both of whom she has a negative H2H.

2. Kashyap vs JOJ
JOJ, both in terms of ranking and H2H. The only fear was his fitness, but he seemed fine in the first round.

3. Sindhu vs SJH
Sindhu, pretty much like the explanation of point 1 above.

4. Srikanth vs SWH
SWH. Yes Srikanth some time back had a positive H2H. But SWH has improved tremendously in the last few months, living upto his ranking of 7. Creating troubles for Chen Long and other players. Beating Srikanth thrice, to create a positive H2H for himself. He has tremendously improved in the last few months.

So this was my analysis before going to the matches. It proved correct in only one case that of 4.

In 1, Saina seemed to be somewhat off, and WSX changed her game. It was the first time I saw her using some smashes and being aggressive.

In 2, JOJ seemed to be off.

In 3, I don't know. The match was close, could have gone anywhere.

 

China swept all 5 golds in 2012 Olympics and also in China Master Super Series and Hong Kong Open SS. After that, China badminton got into a low ebb.