to be considered as great or even greatest player, you must have QUANTITY and QUALITY quantity surely the number of title(s), excellent win - lose records, positive H2H against 95% of the opponents and etc etc quality of course the performance in major event (OG, WC, TC / UC, SC and for some Asians, the Asian Games) and China not only the best in major event only, but also to the tournament(s) that below OG and WC. China is the #1 country in open / grand prix titles start from they joined IBF back to 1982 (until 2006) China is the #1 country in Super Series era still the introduction in 2007. if China still at the top until Dubai 2007, this year will mark China's 11 straight years as the most successful country in Super Series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_BWF_Super_Series I'm not CL fans, even though I'm China fans. the first must be Lin Dan, second choice is LCW. I like LCW to win in Rio 2016 MS final. too bad he was to exhausted in the semifinal. if only he has one day off, I think the final outcome still unpredictable. and I already said it before, Chen Long = Marin in 2016. the best in August 2016, but become a flop for the other 11 months of 2016 it's all about talent. without talent, then nothing we can say. without talent, you can't expect He Bingjiao to become Li Lingwei, the WS GOAT. without talent, never expect Tanongsak to play as deceptive as Zhao Jianhua. current China WS squad is not in the same standard with their seniors. this is the perfect time for ROW WS incl Marin to win as many titles as they can
I think you are living in your own china world . Good for you. But nobody is stopping you from getting titles . Still they are doing good in doubles. But singles, I don't think they might be able to do so in near future. Considering the fact, all the current top 10 Row players are much ahead of them. Chinese players might defeat them occasionally when they are off guard, but not always. There is no way they gonna dominate in near future. These Row players are way ahead of current Chinese players when they were of that age. After 2012, No WS players from china dominated BWF events (exclude team events). They were beaten by row players whenever faced them. So, don't say excuses. Sent from my SM-G600FY using Tapatalk
there're too many if. And i didnt talk abt goat from the beginning again abt injured. Most injury in badminton made by theirself, so avoid injured is a part of talent
good for ROW in single's. just enjoy it. China also lacks in MS after ZJH and Yang Yang retire. so this is not the first time. and from 1994 to 2002, China always failed to win the Thomas Cup. it is normal. China cannot win all the trophies all the time. when I give an excuse ? I'm only say China current WS is weak. so just enjoy this era for ROW where is Saina during the Trio Wang's era ? how many title ? major title ? oh no. Tai Tzu Ying ? no need to say. I saw the match of Japan SS 2014. LXR defeat her comfortably. Marin ? I didn't know if she can win 1 SS until 2012 or 2013 lucky they are not in the same era with 3 Wang's
I don't think avoid injury is a part of talent. what if the situation 'forced" you to get an injury, let say when you gonna make a return to your opponent shots ? and what about Wang Xin injury during bronze medal OG 2012 ? the umpire refuse to mop the floor. so this is part of talent or not ?
Here you go, not again. You are contradictory to your own statements. You were mentioning about BWF events and Chinese will peak when matters. Now, when I was mentioning about World championships and Olympics after 2012, you started taking SS. Whether they are 16 years old or 17 years old, Row were dominant in World championships starting from 2013. Even in Olympics, very good players from china were beaten. Unfortunate, li xuerui is injured. But even her, could not dominate row during WC. It seems like Row were not caring for SS circuit and only BWF events . All other Women singles could not beat sindhu starting from 2013 whenever she played WC and Olympics. This is fact. You can't simply give reasons for loss. Nobody gonna take that. Sent from my SM-G600FY using Tapatalk
more like part of the game. Most not all. Because of your move, your physical. lcw injured when trainning because of new carpet is the exception, not because of himself
I already say just enjoy this era when china ws is not as strong just like their senior. I even say in the 1990's, China MS is weak, that's why Indonesia can win 5 Thomas Cup, 1 OG, and 2 or 3 WC. in the 1990's China WS is not to srong, that's why Susi can win OG and WC. I will say it again, China cannot win all the thropies all the time. so just enjoy this era. its good for india. I know this fact.
please read again post #567 I say quality and quantity. that's why I said marin and chen long is the best in August 2016 (quality ; Olympics gold) but become a flop for the other 11 months of 2016 (quantity ; SS / SSP titles, world ranking and etc)
Dude, that was a baseless allegation that came in a few news articles in China. HAD you seen the match, you would have noticed the court was mopped a point before she fell down. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Why should I enjoy ? . Row is stronger than Wang yihan, Wang shixian and li xuerui after 2012. They can't simply live in their super series performances for world and Olympics titles. Again am telling you, am talking about WS players after 2012. They (Row) earned it. So they will enjoy. Cheers. Sent from my SM-G600FY using Tapatalk
So, you're saying that ROW winning titles is because, at the respective time, CHN is weak? Not because ROW is strong? Not because ROW players are talented and/or skillful? #Tapatalk
you advise @Baddyforall to save his / her energy, but now you are replying my post hehehe. WX injury when she shots out to make it 17 - 20 for Saina. when the court was mopped ? when 16 - 20 ?
He already said that he is china fan. So, why do you take that seriously. Everybody knew that Row is much stronger than 3 Chinese players he was mentioning. He could not accept it. That's why, he keep on insisting that sentence. Nothing else. Sent from my SM-G600FY using Tapatalk
read again my previous post. just 1 year ago, 28 y.o. Wang Yihan goes to Rio 2016 as the world #2. what about ROW young WS except Marin ? why their ranking lower than Wang Yihan ? if they are good enough, WYH surely out from top 10
I already say china ws right now is weak. hbj, cxx, cyf and sun yu is weak. I just say this era is weak, that's why ROW can dominate
Grateful for the graciousness since 2012. BUT be grateful to the ROW for all the graciousness till 2012. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
So, according to you, she entered Olympics because of her ranking. What happened? Did she win it? Sent from my SM-G600FY using Tapatalk