Indonesia Badminton

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  1. cobalt

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    I wonder if they were both carrying injuries?
     
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    MALANG, KOMPAS.com- Pelatnas Cipayung Senior Coach, Christian Hadinata, called the slump achievement of Indonesian badminton among others are due to the fear from the management.

    In the discussion of Djarum Badminton at the All Stars event in Malang, on Friday (04/29/2011), Christian states, in each term of position, said the Management wanted to be called success. "Therefore, they always prioritize the delivery of senior players, with the hope they will continue to win," said Christian.

    As a result of this policy, according to Christian, the young players then rarely given the opportunity to compete abroad. "As a result, their high technical capabilities are not supported by the honed compete mentally."

    This policy would benefit the young badminton players from countries outside Indonesia. "They are able to know the weaknesses of our main players. The young players of other countries took the opportunity to compete with our senior athletes, such as Taufik Hidayat or doubles Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan," continued Christian.

    At the beginning of our senior players are still able to beat younger players of other countries. However, they continue to take advantage of our senior players a chance to see this. In time the senior players should have acknowledge the power of orther countries youngsters. "This is something natural. Technically and stamina, they become more superior," said Christian.

    According to Christian, absolutely should give the opportunity fro youngsters to gain experience by compete in overseas. "Yes, must have the courage to start. If not, we will be more miss than small countries."

    http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/2011/04/29/22120192/Pengurus.Takut.Dianggap.Gagal


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    thats true, i dont believe Indonesia are lack of badminton talents and high technical shuttlers.. it just because they very rare to send the youngsters to compete abroad.
     
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    It's good to hear om Chris sounds critical and optimistic. But reading the other article, reminds me of many2 other article about problems in Indonesia in many aspect, they talk a lot about, all suggestions sound good, but nothing changed or happening on the ground. And hence problem continues. Again I hope I'm wrong this time.
     
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    Candra tourney to kick off next month

    JAKARTA: 2000 Sidney Olympics badminton gold medalist Candra Wijaya announced Thursday that a youth badminton tournament named after him will be held in Jakarta from May 10-14.

    The third Candra Wijaya Men’s Doubles Championships 2011, which is sanctioned by the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI), is a US$25,000 event featuring under-15, under-17 and under-19 players.

    “This is the one thing I can do to help develop qualified shuttlers. We need to maintain the country’s tradition in winning gold medal in the Olympics,” Candra said Thursday, adding that he hoped the PBSI national training camp main athletes could participate.

    Apart from local players, Candra said shuttlers from Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were confirmed to participate in his event.

    Candra will also present badminton lifetime awards to the sport’s legends, including Lim Swie King — the All England men’s singles champion in 1978, 1979 and 1981 who led the Indonesian team to Thomas Cup victories in 1976, 1979 and 1984 and was inducted into the International Badminton Federation Badminton Hall of Fame in 2002.

    Apart from the matches, the event will also showcase a charity auction of several badminton rackets — including Candra’s — and a painting to raise money for the earthquake and tsunami victims in Japan. — JP

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    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/04/29/candra-tourney-kick-next-month.html
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    tournamentsoftware link : http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=8675BEE1-0D5C-4E95-9CEC-9759417897D4
     
  7. huangkwokhau

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    The new combination of INA MD...these 4 pairs will participate at Candra Wijaya Open:
    Ulin/Ricky Karanda
    Barry/Adie
    Andrei/Christopher
    Agriprima/Marcus Fenaldi
     
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    PBSI Has Little to Celebrate on 60th Anniversary
    Ami Afriatni | May 02, 2011

    The Indonesian Badminton Association will mark its 60th anniversary on Thursday a long way from its glory days as a dominating force in the sport.

    Badminton in the country has experienced a precipitous decline in recent years, and the association, known as the PBSI, will undoubtedly find a dark cloud hanging over the anniversary celebration this week.

    “I realize we can’t say much about achievements nowadays,” PBSI president Djoko Santoso said at a training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta, on Monday.

    “The main problem facing the organization is finding new talent to replace the old. Our senior players are slowing down, but the youngsters are having a hard time catching up.”

    Still, there have been some bright spots. Two promising doubles pairs made it to the final of the India Open Super Series over the weekend.
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    Read more : http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/sports/pbsi-has-little-to-celebrate-on-60th-anniversary/438761

    *Huge challenge for PBSI to maintain INA badminton gold tradition in Olympic stage. Let's see next year at Wembley Arena...
     
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    Indonesia elites eye top world rankings

    Approaching its 60th anniversary this month, the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI), under a newly-appointed head of athlete development, revealed aspirations of increasing the standing of its national squad to fourth in the world rankings to help pave the way for medals at next year’s London Olympics.

    “We are hopeful that by the end of this year our shuttlers will be able to get in the world’s top 10 and by June next year be a part of the world’s top four.

    “Thus, it will be easier to pave the way for medals,” Hadi Nasri, head of the PBSI’s athlete development division, said at a media gathering at the national badminton training camp in Cipayung on Monday. The PBSI will celebrate its 60th anniversary on May 5.

    The target is ambitious, as PBSI chairman Djoko Santoso reiterated Indonesia’s less than stellar achievements in international badminton competitions in recent years.

    As of today, Indonesia has only men’s singles veteran shuttler Taufik Hidayat firmly as third in the world on the Badminton World Federation (BWF) chart. The almost-30-year-old Athens Olympics gold-medalist is not under the PBSI, as he has been playing professionally the past couples of years.

    The first layer of the shuttlers under PBSI are still dealing with various injuries including Simon Santoso, who is ninth in the world at the moment, and Sony Dwi Kuncoro, who slumped to 37 in the BWF. Second-layer compatriot Hayom Rumbaka, currently 22nd in the world, is still hopeful to rise within the next 13 months before the London Games.

    In men’s doubles, the prospects are a bit better. Although recently world number three duo Markis Kido and his ailing partner, Hendra Setiawan, dropped to world number six, other Indonesian men’s duos remain in the world’s top 10: Alvent Yulianto Chandra and Hendra Aprida Gunawan (ninth) and M Ahsan and Bona Septano (eighth).

    At the most recent Super Series championship in India that ended on Sunday, youngbloods Angga Pratama and Rian Agung Saputra managed their way to the final of the high-level championship, but were felled by their fourth-seeded Japanese opponents. The young duo has a steep slope to climb towards the top 10, though, as they stand at 43rd in the BWF.

    In the mixed doubles, professional pair Hendra A. Gunawan and Vita Marissa are the only Indonesians in the world’s top 10, and women’s doubles pair Greysia Polii and Meiliana Jauhary hold the same respective distinction. Darker still is in the women’s singles, as the country’s best, Adriyanti Firdasari, is 29th of the world’s top 30.

    Nonetheless, Hadi expressed hope that within the next 13 months the PBSI would support the athletes in qualifying for the Olympics.

    Besides hiring Chinese coach Li Mao to lead an improved performance among the singles shuttlers, as many as 40 international tournaments, including 24 prestigious ones, will be attended by the elite squad members to collect as many points as possible for London.

    The approaching Sudirman Cup on May 22-29 in Qing Dao, China, the BWF World Championship in London on August 8-14 and the Southeast Asian Games this November will serve as prime proving grounds in qualifying for the London Olympics.

    more at : http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/05/03/indonesia-elites-eye-top-world-rankings.html
     
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    Indonesian Shuttlers Eye Olympic ‘Points’ at Malaysian Tourney

    The battle for a spot at the 2012 London Olympics gets under way today with the start of the Malaysian Open Grand Prix Gold, the first of the qualifying tournaments for the Games.

    The World Badminton Federation has ruled that the top 16 players in the world rankings in each of the five divisions on May 3 next year will qualify for the London Games.

    The remaining places will be determined by complicated continental quotas because the federation wants all five continents to be represented at the Games.

    There will be 38 competitors in the men’s and women’s singles events and just 16 pairs in each of the other three divisions; the men’s doubles, the women’s doubles and the mixed doubles.

    Each country can have a maximum of three participants in each of the singles events and two pairs in each of the doubles events.

    Despite the current downturn in the fortunes of the nation’s shuttlers, the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI) has vowed to send as many shuttlers as possible to London in order to sustain the badminton’s gold medal tradition at the Olympics.

    Indonesia has won at least one badminton gold in every Olympic Games since Barcelona 1992.

    “Helping the shuttlers to win their tickets to the Olympics is the first priority,” Hadi Nazri, PBSI’s head of athletes’ development, said on Tuesday.

    “After that, we can talk about how many medals we can win in London,” he said.


    Based on the current BWF rankings, there are two Indonesian men’s singles players in the top 16 — Taufik Hidayat (No. 3) and Simon Santoso (9).

    Markis Kido and Hendra Setiawan (6), Bona Septano and Muhammad Ahsan (8), and Alvent Yulianto Chandra and Hendra Aprida Gunawan (9) are Olympic hopefuls in the men’s doubles, while there are also three mixed doubles pairs in the top 16, including last week’s India Open Super Series winners Tontowi Ahmad and Liliyana Natsir.

    Hendra Aprida Gunawan and Vita Marissa (7) and Fran Kurniawan and Pia Zebadiah Bernadet (14) make up the mixed doubles pairs.

    Greysia Polii and Meiliana Jauhari are the only women’s doubles pairing in the top 16 at the moment while no Indonesian women’s singles player is in a qualifying spot currently.

    Of the leading Indonesian contenders, only Taufik and Simon will be missing when the Malaysia tournament begins today in Alor Setar. They withdrew for unspecified reasons.

    Several promising Indonesian shuttlers will also compete in Alor Setar with London in mind. Among them are men’s doubles pairing Angga Pratama and Rian Agung Saputra, who finished runners up in India on Sunday.

    “We’ve been training hard to earn our Olympic berth and we believe that we can pull it off,” Rian said.


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    More at : http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/badm...ye-olympic-points-at-malaysian-tourney/438968
     
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    Now... Talk less do more :) :)
    Keep spirit INA..!
     
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    Indonesian Young Pair spring surprise

    Riky / Shendy able to beat the seventh seed from China Xu Chen / Ma Jin 21-18, 21-18, Wednesday 4 May. Mixed doubles coach Richard Mainaky said that the key to the success of his protege is the pattern of the game that they apply from the beginning. "They were more attacking with short and flat balls," said Richard in short message.


    http://tempointeraktif.com/hg/raket/2011/05/04/brk,20110504-332158,id.html
     
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    Fernando/Wifqi def Ye Shen/Wei Hong 21-14 22-20.. lots of INA MD are improving :)
     
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    and they improved after leaving PELATNAS
    big question for pelatnas
    why???
     
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    The same case with Tommy.
     
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    Maestro Rudy Hartono slams shuttlers’ mentality

    Badminton legend Rudy Hartono has questioned the drive of the current national badminton squad.

    He said many top players had not won any prestigious titles in the last few years, despite now having state reward money and improved facilities and coaching at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

    “To become a champion in sports it all depends on the athletes themselves. Excellent facilities do not guarantee success in the making of champions,” Rudy told a group of the country’s best young badminton players at the 60th anniversary of the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI) on Thursday at the Cipayung national training camp.

    “You, yourselves, determine your own success. Thus, it is important that you nurture your sense of independence and commitment by continuing to work on ways to reach your own excellence and not wait to be spoon-fed by your coach,” said the 61-year-old Rudy, who won the prestigious All-England title eight times in the 60s and 70s.

    Recalling the first time he competed at the London tournament in 1968, Rudy said limited training facilities had not prevented him from becoming champion.

    “I trained without any coach. I finally got Pertamina to fund my ticket to England by pledging that I would return as a champion,” Rudy said.

    And he did – and not just in 1968, but also in 1969-74, and in 1976.

    Comparing PBSI’s current training facilities to those available in the 60s, Rudy, who resigned from the athlete development post in 2006, said PBSI modern training camp was remarkable. Newly appointed Malaysian team singles coach Wong Tat Meng has also praised the Cipayung facilities.

    The PBSI began upgrading the four-hectare Cipayung training camp early this year, adding an Olympic-size swimming pool, running track, and guest house, and renovating its multifunction hall and athlete dormitory.

    PBSI secretary-general Yacob Rusdianto said the renovation work had cost an additional 20 to 25 percent of the camp’s overall annual operational budget of Rp 30 billion, 90 percent of which comes from sponsors and private funding.

    The multifunction hall and guest house were donated by badminton club Djarum, and the swimming pool and running track were paid for by the Youth and Sports Ministry.

    Rudy said there was no excuse for the association’s top players to not be winning tournaments. “The PBSI should impose rewards and punishment more sternly. Within six tournaments in a year, we should be able to decide whether an athlete is worth keeping, or not,” Rudy said.

    Newly appointed athlete development head Hadi Nasri said he would start evaluating each athlete more strictly.

    Nineteen-year-old singles player Renna Suwarno, who is ranked 171 in the world, said, “Every player has a different attitude. I can’t speak for everyone. All I know is that I’m committed to being world champion by the time I’m 22.”


    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/05/05/maestro-rudy-hartono-slams-shuttlers’-mentality.html
     
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    More freedom (can pick any tournament they want) :cool:
    Less burden (Pelatnas = national team = considered bests among the bests = must win)??? :p
     
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    Punishment and Reward is not the only factor. There are more aspect of management and strategy of PBSI to facilitate INA's badminton to grow. If our legend mind only keep repeating about this issue only, no wonder current players tend to improve when they left Pelatnas.
     
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    Freedom is good. But I would like to emphasize that picking tournament nowadays require strategy considering level and form. I smell that PBSI didn't possess good strategy (or no srategy?). Look at our legend Rudy Hartono keep saying on and on about punishment and reward ONLY. And keep comparing to those in the past. Hey, everything is different between the past and present. So, when a player failed in SS level at early round then got punished by withdraw them from next tourney, is that what so called a program? That's most probably why when a player leave pelatnas and then can choose tournament(s) by them selves, progress is still being made rather than stopped merely by the name of punishment.
     
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    I dont think RH means that. Im totally agree with RH on this as much I also agree to what Om Chris said on the earlier post. Although implementation is another thing. I have witness my self that top INA players regularly went on clubbing during their tournament. One of the reason CHN is now more successful is the fact that their players follow a very strict code of conduct, discipline and high intensity of training. Lets be honest are our current player have the same attitude toward those criterias compare to the previous generation?? Maybe not, or at least in less percentage.
     

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