Please, You are embarrasing yourself by talking down, to posters that just by reading the thread makes it obvious that they know more about math and physics than you do.. Isn't it just enough that low tensioned Ti-10 is what optimizes the power for your swing-speed? Be happy whith that. I am happy that you share your experiences.. If it works for you it may work well for others as well.. Trying to model a complex thing like racket/string/shuttle interactions are not as EASY as you seem to think.. as other posters here have been trying to tell you.. I think someone has said "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."
- [size=-1]Andre Gide i originally typed in: there is so much truth to that. but then i think that sounds a bit wrong considering the context... [/size]
if u had truly no technique, then u would not be actually hitting the shuttle at all and even a ti-10 will loose strings will not help you. i would also assume that you have some strength in your arms, let alone the combined strength of torso, shoulder and arm in performing a clear. also, i'm sure you will admit that there are degrees of technique, in this case from poor---->good---->excellent (etc etc) and all the bits in between. I am not suggesting that you do not have technique, just that better technique will lead to better, more "effortless" (in terms of brute strength) clears, and all the other shots as well. the large majority of social and even some league players may not have had formal coaching, but that does not mean they all have the same technique, however good or bad. they may ask others, or pick it up slowly by experimenting themselves and observing others, or they are naturally gifted and used to holding the racquet "properly". however, the best way to learn (=improve) is to get a qualified coach (as im sure you will acknowledge), however some people play to a high level without coaching. personally i do not think this is due to their superior equipment, but rather their technique and even footwork which they've picked up without coaching. that's why i said its all technique at a non competitive level anyway.
What can I say, apart from that my superior sense of irony is unsurpassed ? Gullum probably hasn't had so much fun for ages. Why, he even starting to come out with the math that he swore he would not do. As I stated before the happy medium is somewhere between all-skill and all-equipment, although both extremes remain possible depending on the circumstance.
Pah. That wasn't maths. That was barely physics And no, I haven't had fun in this discussion. To dispute with a learned man is a fine pleasure, but to dispute with a fool is ignoble. I've been wasting my time.
Exactly, just be happy your combination of racket and string tension gives you your advantage in clearing...for now. That is all, don't make it more than you think it should be. Once you improve I'm sure you will go higher in tension because: 1) you will be hitting everything out, 2) you will find that you need control of the shuttle and 16-18lbs. doesn't cut it., 3) higher tension just sounds so good when you hit the shuttle.
And perhaps -- just perhaps: 4) You find that higher tension gives you more power on smashes. Not needed on clears, but for smashes you want as much power as you can get. Or maybe not. Depends on you Equipment is there to serve the player, not the other way round.
Heh, there is a particular tree here with a great capacity to accept different opinions. The dude is our man !
Good point. Another thing to ponder, is why the average tension for pro players is so high (about 30lbs, and some even go to 36/38!!).. If they smash at 340 Km/h using 30lbs, do you think their smash would be +400km/h if they strung 16.5 lbs?!?! In that case why don't they.. to get better smashes... Clearly this indicates, at least to me that, the thruth isn't as simple as to say lower tension = more power...
When it comes to power, I like it too much than too little. Lots of my shots go out now. But it will be a matter of time before I gain control of them. As for the sound, I don't know what the fuss is about. When I do a very hard smash, the sound is loud and sometimes I get asked if I am on 30lb tension. I can only guess the sound on the low tension string is not bad.
You forget. The pro's don't need power as much as they need the speed. Low tension string has a long contact time. That stops the shuttle from leaving the the string the moment a contact is made. Given the distance a shuttle travels on court, it is more likely to be advantageous to the pro's to have the shuttle leave the string early at a lower speed than leaving later at a greater speed.
The people asking obviously don't know about tension and sound and I was kidding about the sound. However, there is a big difference in sound between 16lbs. and 30 lbs. You can tell the string tension by the pitch/tone of the shuttle coming off the string bed. 16lbs. will sound like "Dooooong" where 30lbs. will sound like "Ting!"
Those asking were the top players. They are into badminton enough to care about the sound. When i get a hard smash right on my low tension MicroLengendXL, the sound is more of a loud FFFFWHAAAAACK. BG80 at 28LB on the other hand sounds like POK. No I don't think the sound do anything for me.
Top players will clearly know the difference and why they care about sound...one day you will know why.
The sound is important also. It does give you the indication that you are hitting the shuttle correctly. No matter weather its a high tensioned or low tensioned hitting sound.
If CoolDoob is happy playing at his current level and getting better than the rest of the people he plays against is his ultimate goal then I think we should leave him to it. His clearing is working, so good for him, I dont know at what level he plays so I am not going to start making comments (because there is a good chance he could be better than me) but I think its safe to say that his method is not going to work for most people and for a sustained improvement there is no substitute for hard work. However, for the majority of people playing mens doubles (which I think he is) constant clearing is only going to loose you games and probably partners because they are standing at the net waiting for you to attack and most likley about to get hit between the eyes from your opponents attack. I havent watched a video of mens doubles in a while but I bet if you watch any game from county level upwards you could count the number of clears in each set on your fingers. Just a thought
