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21-point system PASSED by IBF AGM!!!

Discussion in 'Rules / Tournament Regulation / Officiating' started by cxytdn, May 5, 2006.

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  1. cxytdn

    cxytdn Regular Member

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    世界羽坛迈出改革大步伐 21分制正式淘汰15分制

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    http://sports.sina.com.cn 2006年05月06日11:36 新华网 ​

      新华网东京5月6日电(记者梁金雄、张华)国际羽联年度代表大会6日在东京举行,经国际羽联全体会员代表投票通过,决定废除使用了几十年的15分换发球得分制,并正式启用21分每球得分制。

      由于从明年5月起将展开北京奥运会的资格赛,因此国际羽联的这一决定意味着两年后在北京奥运会羽毛球赛场上将采用21分每球得分制。

      有着逾百年历史的羽毛球运动14年前成为奥运大家庭一员后呈现出前所未有的发展势头,但参赛国家和地区少和比赛时间长等“老毛病”一直困扰着该项运动的可持续发展,也面临着有可能被挤出奥运大家庭的危机。

      为了鼓励更多的国家和地区开展羽毛球运动的积极性以及缩短比赛时间、吸引观众、开拓市场和有利电视转播,去年底国际羽联决定从今年2月起试行每球得分的21分为一局的三局两胜新赛制,试行期仅3个月。3个月来,21分制的规律虽然还没有被各队所掌握,但它的偶然性和“抑强扶弱”的特点在汤尤杯比赛中已体现出来,如尤伯杯赛四强中没了老面孔韩国队,并首次出现了德国和中国台北队,荷兰队甚至历史性地首次打进了决赛。(完)
     
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    Care to translate? So the 21 pt rally system is now official?
     
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    Yes. the 15 pts is confirm waived.
     
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    not much new in the article. except that they voted to accept the 21pt system as a permanent measure.

    not really much of a surprise anyway, it has been well known that all votes have been "negotiated" and the vote was merely just a formality.
     
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    now i wonder if local tournaments and recreational play adopt the 21 pt system. I know of no clubs here use the 21 pt system.
     
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    I heard badmintoncanada is changing to the new system after jr nationals at the end of may
     
  7. taneepak

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    You are not alone. Most players in Hong Kong, except those who play in competitions, do not know about the new system. Most of the coaches swear by the old system and would not want their charges to try out the new system. Some who try it the first time just gave up. It may surprise you that all those I play with have now played with the new system and like it. There were some resistance initially but most of them actually prefer the new system now.
    This is still a free world. There is nothing to stop anyone from continuing with the old system. But over the long run you may not be able to find anyone to play with.
     
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    Disappointing but not unexpected news. Nothing on the IBF website, of course.

    Does anyone have an English report?

    We'll just have to look forward to the next scoring change in a year or two.

    Perhaps we can have goals at the ends of the court, after all badminton should prosper if it copies the world's most popular sport.
     
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    No, the statutes of the IBF would not allow a change in the laws of badminton for at least another 4 years.
     
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    this 21 point system has been around for 4 years then?

    they can start "experimenting" with another new system after any AGM can't they?
     
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    The statutes say that any law changes can only be tendered for a vote once in every four years. For official trials and experiments there is no such limitation although they must be approved. If there is great urgency to change any badminton law within the 4 years period, then there must be at least a 4/5 majority vote to over-rule this 4 years limitation. The last vote on a law change was in the year 2002. They had to wait 4 years-it is now 2006-to ensure that any change is in compliance with the statutes.
     
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    There is a possibility to overturn today's IBF decision on the new system. If you feel strongly about this, you could spearhead a legal move to have this thrown out. If you are serious and would go the whole way, I would then suggest a technical way to fight this. But you bear all consequential damages and/or costs.
     
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    incidentally, was 5x7 only an experiment and not official?
     
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    Until now, the only system I know of that was official was the old 3 x 15 system, with only server winning a rally point. All other systems, including those played in some countries, were not IBF-sanctioned.
     
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    Sorry, what I wanted to say was that the 3 x 15 system was the only official system, until the adoption of the new 3 x 21 system, that was officially adopted as a law. All other systems, including those used in the 2002 Thomas/Uber Cup matches, were either non-IBF-sanctioned or were IBF-approved/sanctioned for a trial/experiment period, but never made it into the statutes.
     
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    IIRC 5X7 was officially incorporated into the rules, but the BAofE took the IBF to court and had the decision reversed on some technicality.
     
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    OMG, this is unbelievable. I have watched several matches with the new scoring system and I still don't see any advantages/excitement over the old system. Now games are going to be way too short for them to be exciting at all.
     
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    Yeah, I prefer 3 x 15 system too. :crying:
    What I see in the 21-point system now, the player that keep smashing and make less mistake mostly will win the match, not much skills needed. :(
    So does it means the trend of all players now = fast attacker? :rolleyes:
     
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    From badminton.de

    Rallyepoint counting method of the IBF finally decided
    Martin Knupp (6.5.06) (with google_translate)

    "With more expectationful tension as the Uber Cup final in the afternoon the IBF Annual general Meeting (AGM) was expected , which took place this morning in the Keio Plaza hotel in Tokyo.

    ... At point 7 the agenda “Laws of badminton” took place only two word messages. England expressed itself for an extension of the test phase, Denmark articulated skepticism whether the (game)duration to 21 was the the best. But both notes did not even flow into formal requests. Then the tuning took place. Without dissenting votes it was decided that since 1 February with the international tournaments used “Rallyepoint counting method” now formally as official counting method for the badmiton haven applies. ..."

    Note that it was no vote against this new system!!!

    For germany i dont hear any public debate or consultations about the suitability of the new system till now. In an interview in january this year the president of the german federation said practically that the european countrys have nothing to say on the IBF meetings and that it's nothing what they can do against.
     
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    new system (relly point)

    It is now officially declared that the new system (3x21) will be use for the future event and tournament. IBF on there annual meeting in tokyo this week decided to continue using the new system, rely point 3 x 21 after the whole IBF member vote for this new system.

    meanwhile deputy presiden IBF, Datuk Punch Gunalan said that system rely point has a lot of advantages, such as : easier for them to predict how long it will take each game, there wont be any love game (15-0) so it will bost their selfconfidence, and also the new system will help the palyer to keep their fitness.
     
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