Hi all coaches and players especially those in UK, In the last two seasons, I have been involved with junior shires matches and also travelling around on BE sanctioned tournaments in both juniors and seniors. I even went on the Harrods Inter County Tournament 2011 at Nottingham University recently and notice 1 particular thing which I object. Players(boys and girls) continue to use backhand serve in single and doubles but contravene the rule which states at the instance when the racket hit the shuttlecock, it should be below the waist (The waist is an imaginary line below the last rib). I have seen players virtually hit the shuttlecock at chest level. I have seen player start off below the waist but throw the shuttlecock up and hit it above the waist I have seen players, start their racket under their arm pit and so drove the shuttlecock across the net. All these are happening infront of their parents and sometime their coaches (whether it be their county coach and manager or personal coach) parenst may have the excuse that they do not know but I am sure they know especially if they are players themselves. Coaches should be ashame that they allow their players to use this illegal method to gain an unfair advantage over the opponent. Some of these players are National level or Gold, Silver and Bronze graded What is badminton England going to do about it? Are they are going to sit and wait for something else to happen or are they going to take immediate action to let all coaches and tournaments organisors and Shire league committee know that something must be done to curb this illegal action. Maybe suspension of the coaches or administer penalties against players and establishment that support these players will stop these practice. If we do not curb these young players now, they will continue to practice and more and more players will copy because no action is taken against these players and the other players copy and see how far they can get away with it. What do BC members say? What do Badminton players do? Do we want badminton or do we want cheats that win?