Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

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  1. Mark A

    Mark A Regular Member

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    Funny this should come up, given what's coming to me next month:D...
     
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    What, what?! Revelation?
     
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    Judging by the absence of the Panda, could he be busy with the upcoming Revelation?? WooHoooooo!!
     
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    It's known only as "Racket B" - a naked carbon prototype. I've been OK'ed to discuss it, so once it gets here I will do a deep quasi-review.

    Btw - how cool is the name "Racket B":D.
     
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    B stands for "bomb"

    Racket Bomb ;)
     
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    There is already version 5 ???
     
  7. DinkAlot

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    No. To make it easy there are really just two versions (major changes):

    Version 1 has the pinstripe and lighter weight shaft

    Version 2 does not have the pinstripe and has a normal shaft
     
  8. DinkAlot

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    No, sorry, the Revelation is on hold for now. The frame is just right. But for some reason, Panda cannot mate the right shaft to the frame. The shafts are either too stiff, too soft or just don't feel right.

    Instead, Panda is working on another racket... :D
     
  9. visor

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    So, how is this "Clash of the _____" racket B going to be different from Trinity & Genesis?
    :D:p:D:p:D
     
  10. DinkAlot

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    The Titan is not going to be made as it's very similar to the Ultra 3 (but the U3 performs better). The U3 will be nearly identical to the U1 in terms of specs. The U3 will have updated graphics and a better finish. The U3 is not going to be produced yet, not until there's more demand.

    Racket B is another animal all together. Panda is referring to "Racket C", which is currently being worked on. So stay tuned. :)
     
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    I WILL need U3 :)
    Seems like the Trinity 2 that I have the shaft somehow right now feels very much more flexible at 301mm from the original 294mm. Have again moved the BP down to 295mm by removing a little bit more of overgrip (usually wrap till it covers the cone). Will test it out tonight and see how's the result.

    Is it possible (which I hope not) that a defect in the shaft that causes this? I really hope not ... :(
     
  12. DinkAlot

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    The T2 shaft is designed for a BP up to 295-297. Any higher and it's not optimized. For a BP of 300 or higher, the shaft would need to be stiffened.

    This goes for any racket by any manufacturer. They design the racket for a certain range of performance. Anytime the customer modifies the racket and drastically changes the weight or BP, the dynamics of the racket changes.

    As for the shaft being more flexible at BP301 vs. BP294, of course it will be. The more weight you put at the end, the more stress you will put on the shaft, all else being equal. That's elementary physics.
     
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    I'll probably be buying the U3 (missing the U1 now that I'm getting stronger and faster), the Genesis, the Revelation, Racket B, Racket C, and just about every racket up to and including racket Z :D

    But top of the list? That mysterious racket the panda is making, and a U3. And maybe a used T2 I can sand down with 1000000000 grit sandpaper.

    NB: I acknowledge neither the Panda nor DC Badminton condone, endorse, or recommend modifying the DC line of rackets/racquets in any way, shape, or form with any substance under any circumstances for any reason.

    I just think naked carbon graphite is the sleekest way to do it, and the easiest way to turn some heads.
     
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    Thanks for the info about the shaft optimal BP. That would help a lot by not going over the optimal BP that the shaft can handle. BTW this is the first ever racket that I can handle/use with BP > 290mm.
     
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    Having less overgrip will increase the BP, not decrease.

    But anyhow, as has been stated many times, the swing feel of bp of the racket is more affected by the change in mass at the racket head end, and is minimally affected by a change in mass in the handle end.
     
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    Dang! You have too many rackets going on!

    So, is the Genesis still forthcoming? ETA?
    Or are you still tweaking it, since your current T2's at 295-300 is starting to approach the Genesis specs.
     
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    My bad

    Ah yes, my mistake there. Should be adding a little more overgrip just right below the cone. :p
    This will definitely lessen the overall BP.
     
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    but adjusting the (over)grip wont affect the shaft's flexing because there is still exactly the same amount of weight distributed away from the axis of rotation (ie approximately your hand).

    my point is that adjusting grips has virtually no impact on the moment of inertia, so any changes you perceive are purely placebo.
     
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  19. DinkAlot

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    Yes it can if the overall weight of the grip changes and how you grip it (distribute it).

    Panda has changed rackets dynamics by up to 5g, 5mm on the BP just by using different weight replacement grips.

    Example: T2 at 82.5g, BP290 with RK Super Soft Grip applied tightly went to 86.1g, BP282 with RK King Grip applied loosely with an extra wrap at the butt to make the butt of the handle bigger. This is, of course extreme and can be more extreme if more weight at the butt.

    Going back, in general, most grip mods will not affect the shaft flexing. What affects the shaft flex is adding extreme weight to the head such as lead tape to alter the BP. That was not specified and should have been stated specifically so thanks for bringing it up. :)
     
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    Hey Dink, should we PM you for prices of specific rackets, or is that information something you'll make public?
     

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