Jump Smashing, good or bad?

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  1. GunBlade008

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    I was just watching the World Juniors play and I noticed that on EVERY offensive shot from the back, it was a jump shot. Specifically, the Malaysian mens doubles vs. the Korean Mens. Now the guy in the back kept jumpsmashing and after it was returned, either the guy in front would get it, or the jump smasher would have been out of position and missed it. Now the Malaysians won the set due to this consistant style, but is it good to keep jump smashing and is it really viable in singles play?
     
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    yes, if u can play good as them
     
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    haha, say if they were facing someone at their skill level, would it be wise to jumpsmash knowing that they have a great chance of returning it?
     
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    I would like to turn it around and ask you this: would it be a good idea to jump smash at someone knowing that he's in a good position to return it? How about a regular smash?

    As long as the return is high and you can recover in time for another proper shot, why not? However, having a high return from your power shots depends on many factors beside giving your hardest shot:rolleyes:. One major factor is your partner (as you have witnessed in the World Juniors). If your opponents fear your partner, then you can have as many opportunities to jump smash as you want. If your partner is slow, lazy-ass or just don't know how to cover you, save the effort. Smashing only makes you work harder for lesser returns.
     
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    I believe there is some sort of a deception factor in doing a jump smash rather than a regular one. Most players would expect a smash coming when they see their opponent jumping and thus would stay rooted to the center in preparation for the smash. Should the player in the process of a jump drops or does an attacking lop to the base, it would most probably catch the defending player out because the defending player was expecting a smash coming judging from the jump.

    We witness that many times in international matches where doubles players jump, body poise going for a smash but doing a drop shot at the last moment instead, catching their opponent out of in the process.
     
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    I guess jumping is used for a deeper angle and deception where you can smash/clear/drop.

    I jump a lot too because jumping is fun. Lol.
     
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    jump smashing can be used all the time as long as you know how to do it and know how to recover fast incase they drop it back at you. to mix it up though a deceptive jump smash would work but i wouldent go as far as saying clear on a jump smash, i know that a drop from there can mess up many players and it can leave a mental impression like are they going to do that again and it can be to your advantage. also dont always smash stright when jumpsmashing go for cross court cause the angle is so much greater it will be harder for them to return it unless there that good. and it is ok to jump smash for singles, it would be a good and easy way to win the point but you have to relize if there good enough to return it consistently then the effectiveness of it drastically decresses.
     
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    smash return

    When i do a backcourt smash (jump) , the opponents return will go the other side which i or my partnet cant get to in time since im off balace after the jump smash. My partner will play front middle incase of a drop return but i will leave the other side back depending which side im hitting it from open. Sometimes i wonder if i should even jump smash in the back court but then i see the pros do it all the time and the returner hits it right back at them for another round of smashing. Could my smash be weak which allows the opponents to return it where they know my partner and i cant get it?[​IMG]
     
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    - would u keep betting if the dealer keep winning?
    - would u keep hitting field ball if you can't hit home runs?

    It's obvious your jmpsmashs are ineffective since ur asking this question :p

    of course jumping accelerate calorie consumption so it does serve a good way to reduce weight.
     
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    This is one of the best reasons I've ever heard for jump smashing. :) I guess I'm justified then. :p

    Actually, I find that unless you can jump 2 feet in the air and smash as hard as you can while on the ground and still recover as fast as if you were on the ground, it's quite pointless.

    Where I find it helps though is jumping from side to side. If you jump to your sides, you can smash as your feet aren't tangled up whereas if you walk/slide/lunge over, your feet are in the way. Sort of the same as when an ice hockey player shoots. When he shoots, he stops moving his feet and just glides.

    Of course if you do this, my first point above still holds true if the return should come back to you. :)
     
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    In my opinion, jump smashes are good, but you have to utilize it effectively. Jump smashes obviously give you more angle and power in a way, but it slows you down a little bit because you have to land first before you get back to ready position, that's why you need to use it intelligently according to the play situation.

    Jump smashes are widely used in doubles because you are not the only one that has to return the "returned smash", you have your partner who's supposed to read the situation and help out sometimes, in some situation your partner can also rotate with you from the front to back and do the smashes. In singles, you even have to think twice before doing the jump smashes depending on how fast you are. In singles, the jump smashes or I should say the smashes are relatively less stronger than in doubles, because you have to recover quickly after doing the smashes and you have no partner that can help you. In the modern/current badminton competition, players are getting faster and stronger, and they are doing more and more jump smashes. But, you have to have a good stamina in order to do that. You can't just copy all the internation players do and apply it to yourself, you have to be selective and know your speed, strength, stamina, etc. Otherwise, you won't be able to finish the game. :)

    Just my 2 cents.

    BTW, I used to do jump smashes all the time when playing doubles and singles, but I have to be more selective and smart now as it hurts my legs, feet, etc. more when I'm doing that, I'm getting older :(

     
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    I second that!:D
     
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    I'm sure you all know that jumping for a smash gives a better angle allowing the birdie to hit closer to the net. Also, jump smashing or even a simple smash is generally stronger than the rest of the shots. But then, imagine having to play 45 minutes and 70% of your shots are jump smashes. You'll be hella tired by the second set!

    An Indonesian friend of mine calls that certain style of being dependent on your smash a "flat game" because if your opponent/s is/are good defenders, they'll either wear you out or they'll give you difficult returns.

    Jump smashes are good but they won't win you the game. Drop, clear, hit cross court, etc. Develop them all and you'll have a huge vocabulary of shots to kill your opponents with!!! Woooohoooo!!!!!!!! :D
     
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    the only time i jump smash is when i'm at the back of the court because it gives me more power.
     
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    I love jump smashing...
     
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    i remember my friend told me that player who can drop/lob/clear/lift is better than a player who can smash well..Badminton is not just about power(offensive),it rely on tactic too..
    why bother to smash when your smash have no chance of killing your oppenent.
    In double,i smash,or at least half smash cause i believe i have a good oppenent..For single,i onli smash when oppenent is out of position or when i holding a advantage
     
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    But that is not to say that one should neglect the importance of a smash. I find that the smash and the clear are the two most important shots in even the advanced level. This is because clearing helps you controll the base and smashing finishes the rally.
     
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    It depends. If the lift was not right to the back of the line, jump smashing doesn't actually accomplish much. Jump smashing gives you a better angle and if you do it right, you can power your smash.

    In doubles, players tends to jump smash more because their partner is available to cover and also take the easy kills. In singles, more than likely you will be out of position as it takes longer for you to recover. PLUS you consume more calories and tire quicker.
     
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    hmmm, for some reason now, i dont jump fully when doing smashes, i'll just do a little hop (about 15cm off ground) when smashing and i tend to throw my body into a clear. this is bad rite?
     

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