Day 6 of Proton Malaysia Open 2010: Finals on Sunday 24-Jan

Discussion in 'Korea Open / Malaysia Open 2010' started by chris-ccc, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. Jonc108

    Jonc108 Regular Member

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    ... thought this comment is not fair to WX, the umpire's decision was nothing to do with her... :confused:
     
  2. limsy

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    hmm
    for me
    i wil be bored by the robotic play of lift,defence,lift,smash of md
    a few 'fancy shot' is good enough to keep me awake:p

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    anyway,i dont see people comment on lcw when he lift many time for chen jin and du peng yu to smash,or when he is doing the peter gade trademark double motion lift and fail
    do people call him fancy?
    there is alos many time that lcw fail at the cross court net shot
    do people call him fancy?

    what made kkk is kkk
    is his natural and his skill
    thats not about fancy or not fancy

    for the so called supporter of malaysia player and critical to all silly mistakes
    so is ok that wmc return is wide,fuzzy pair smash into net,chin/wong serve into net for many times?
    are those not silly mistakes?
    is that a ordinary mistakes for a professional player who train for more than 10 years?:rolleyes:
    if no,where is the so called suppoter of malaysia player and critical to all silly mistake to critic?
    i dont know who is the one who so narrow-minded and tunnel-visioned with the double standard on player
     
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    i sincerely apologize to everyone who felt offended by my "wrong" choice of word while commentating. like everyone else who was watching the game, i was emotionally-attached to the going-ons on court and hence, made an (apparently) uncalled-for judgement. show me a person who wasnt affected by the court-action and i'll buy everyone breakfast.

    as for you, Mr Limsy, thank you very much for scanning through all the pages of commentary and thank you once again for picking out the shortcoming. Thanks for analyzing all my postings in this thread and came to the conclusion that i am a double-standard hypocrite who bashes only KKK for his silly mistakes. yes i am extremely narrow-minded and tunnel-visioned as obviously, i spent too much time in this thread and forum. :rolleyes:
     
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    Why doesn't anyone give credit to his successful fancy play?
     
  5. limsy

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    maybe they scare kkk will end up like hafiz since there is a comparison on them:p
    anyway,just joking:D
     
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    Well i like him because of his tricky and skillful net play, and he has the gut to netplay even when opponent is sealing the frontcourt, and it make tons of opportunity for not only smashing but also make opponent chances of mistakes higher
     
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    my 2 cent of opinion is, some players do use fancy trick and play..
    is the matter of timing.. sometimes its work sometimes is doesn't.
    If use on the right timing, it'll be a tremendous moment else it will be self backfire only.
    Apply it on the correct timing and strategy depending on whose opponent of cos.
    Every player have their strength and ability. Great job to all the 2010 MO winner.
     
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    Yes, but the other top 3 pairs playing very little fancy shots wins more major/SS titles.....than KKK/TBH..........this is fact. :D:D:D

    I dont know if KKK/TBH will wins major title with less fancy shots.....:confused::confused:
     
  9. limsy

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    what if i tell u kkk wont be able to win so much title if he didnt have 'fancy' shot:confused:
    without the so called fancy net play,brilliant net skill and reaction,kkk is only an ordinary md player
    thats what made him different from other ordinary md player
    just like tbh with his height and smashes
    each player that is successful have their own special ability
    its not a wrong or fault
    he born to play those net skill

    u want the player like lee/chong
    pairing for 10++ year
    can reach many semis and final constantly but cannot win the title in the end
    or u want koo/tan whom cant made to final/semis constantly but can win the title in the end?
     
  10. chris-ccc

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    Unfortunately, it's hard for KKK to change

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    limsy,

    We can see it's the showmanship that KKK always likes to display. :(:(:(

    Unfortunately, it's hard for KKK to change. Some thinks it's entertaining. Some say it's too much fooling about. Some say that serious Badminton should not be played like this.

    It's known that even his coach, Rexy, is not happy with KKK displaying this kind of showmanship. So, we should understand why some BCers are not happy with it either.
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    I dont recall any fans complaint LYD/JJS, HS/MK and FHF/CY's game are boring without or less those fancy shots......

    KKK has to proves that with those fancy shots could win him at least a WC.........or more than 10 SS just like LYD/JJS did........
     
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    i am not against him playing fancy shots...
    i enjoyed it as well...but sometimes you have to
    see the situation and opponents...
    if you re-watch the SF and Final, how many points
    is won through KKK fancy shots??:cool::cool:
     
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    Sorry double post...
     
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    Yes, he lost lots of points from his fancy shots.......and nearly lost the first game...:D:D in SF...Luckily he reduced it during the Final....;)
     
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    While many may not be impressed with Koo Kien Keat's tendency to play fancy-shots and perhaps arrogant attitude, those characteristics make him what he's right now.

    Although his partnership with Tan Boon Heong might not deliver consistent results, I will say that this pair (along with Lee Chong Wei) represents the best that MAS has produced in the past 10 years.

    They have won:
    2006 - Asian Games Individual Event Gold
    2007 - Malaysia, All-England, Swiss, Denmark SS; Philippines & Macau GPG
    2008 - World SS Masters Final; Macau GPG
    2009 - Swiss & Denmark SS; World Championships Bronze
    2010 - Malaysia SS

    A total of 7 SS titles, 1 AG Individual Event Gold; 1 World SS Masters Final, 3 GPG titles -- a total of 13 titles that I can remember of + 1 World Championships Bronze.

    I doubt Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah or Chan Chong Ming/Koo Kien Keat or even the Olympics Silver-Medallist Cheah Soon Kit/Yap Kim Hock have won that much titles in slightly more than 3 years of partnerships.
     
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    anyway they won the MD finally...:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    so i think is better to close case now
    rather than becoming a new issue
    and drag few more pages....
    anyway wish to see KKK more effective fancy shots :p:p
     
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    please leave the arrogant part out from me, i did not say nor refer kkk as that. I said he seem to over use fancy shot making to the point some backfired. I also compared them to other great MD pairs that won more titles with much less fancy shots making. Yes, kkk/tbh has a good record as MAS MD pair, question is, could they have won more titles if kkk limit his use of fancy shots that work.
     
  18. limsy

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    hmm
    i think they win 3 macau gp gold already?:confused:

    come on badmania
    just get used to it
    when no title,those bolehians want title
    when have title,those bolehians want more title and also major
    and the list go on
    ;)
     
  19. limsy

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    no
    just like lindan without his speed and attack
    and lcw without his defence
    taufik without backhand
    and peter gade without brilliant tactic and spirit
    see?
    do kkk have other special talent beside this?
     
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    Some have commented on his arrogance in and off the court.

    I would agree that to a certain extent, over-usage of fancy-shot is a sign of arrogance - kinda belittling his opponents, esp when they face inexperienced pairs like Chai Biao/Zhang Nan. That really could have backfired :cool:

    But well, if that's his style, there's nothing that Rexy or his partner can do. Arrogance in the court might also scare off some opponents. All other INA pairs except for Kido/Hendra have failed to beat them up to now.
     
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