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  1. XKazeCloudX

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    very good point. I am one of those players that tries to move fast all the time and would try to reach the middle. or recieve a wrong psychic feeling that the opponent is about to drop. so when i run towards the net. the opponent might clear it instead and stopping that momentum. even if i can reach the back again, it would of been very difficult. I think I should inch forward or just try to not move way too much in a direction before the opponent even hit the birdie :eek:
     
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    Lol it wasn't serious, the 1st sentence i made.
    I mean, you gotta move when you know this
    particular shot will be made. Develop a fake
    routine just to fake your oppenent, so you can
    know which shot he will make.
    Ex) after serving (5 first serves) always go, intendly,
    to the backcourt, so he will drop the next serve you do.
    Then you just fake it out and kill the shuttle.
    I used that and made me win a lot. (not only this technique)..

    Sorry if i am confusing you, idea boxes in my head
    just can't be transformed into comprehensible sentences.
     
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    the low serve is the bst because your apponents hv only a few choices and he cant smash. the goal is to serve to the middle so your opponents will lift the shuttle
     
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    BUTBUT.. if u serve short backhand serve, u need prepare for a backshot/dropshot/lobbing.

    come to the worst, its killing yrself. opponent will give u a hard tap.

    alot of risk if i don't have the power to send the suttle all the way back to the end of his court.
    rite?
     
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    As I said b4, the average player still hits more high deep serves than short ones. If the opposing receiver stands deep in the court, I'd be tempted to hit an occassional short serve.

    Watch some of the elite players to see they deal with the issues that you raise. The short BH serve has become very common in the men's singles game for more than 15 yrs. Even the top women have started employing more short serves (either BH or FH) in singles in the past few years.
     
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    Here's a short vid of Taufik hitting an amazing BH winner after a short wide serve also employ a backhand (serve):

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ualwAwHjopU
     
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    sometimes i do agreee... need practice more on backhand yea..
    i wonder how did he do that.. powerful smashes
     
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    short serves are so that you don't give the attack away from the start of the rally. against players like Lin Dan, it's almost suicide to launch a high serve, as it gives them time, and the smash will be hard to read. anything an inch short of the singles service line is suicide. also, you're closer to the net so you can dominate the net early and get that short life.
     
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    oh yea.. i watch many pro players on youtube.. maybe i can practice more on footworkk. they run really fast dude.. frm the front to the back..
     
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    they train daily and have good stamina. they do not have any problems when getting ready for the next shot.
     
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    to sum it up. for us average players if you do a BH serve and the opponent clears it back to the corner fast. It would be very difficult for an average or below average player to have enough footwork or speed to get in the back with a good position.
     
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    i train 4 times a week.. 2 hrs a day with my coach.. guess need train super duper hard to do that... i enjoy the video. thks.
     
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    it's not really training with your coach which will improve your fitness. your coach can only teach you so much. the stamina and fitness, which is vital, is all up to you.
     
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    yea.. other den training with coach. i do cycling with my group of friends. usual routine, normally cycle about 40+km a day. cycling is another sport i LOVE!
     
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    Very good. When you do your cycling be sure to include some interval training since this type of training is what is needed most for badminton matches. If you cycle at a fairly constant rate, you will increase your aerobic capacity. While it is a good thing to have a good aerobic base, you need to train your body to function effectively when performing anaerobically (cuz badminton is primarily anaerobic).

    For interval training while cycling, alternate between a very high-intensity phase followed by a coasting (or low-intensity) phase. Each phase should be about 30 seconds or so. You can also vary each phase so that you go 20 seconds for each for a while. Also try for 60+ second phases (since this represents a long badminton rally).
     
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    last time i a veri fat boy. all i do is to eat and eat.
    soon after i started cycling to lose weight and follow i started badminton.

    throught cycling i gain my stamina and tights muscle.. so badminton training will not be so tough..

    wad u mean by intervals? meaning after 2 hrs of cycling, i do some footwork? on the road?
     
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    You can do interval training on foot or on the bicycle. Off the bike, you can do 20-second (or longer) sprints (running nearly as fast as you can). Follow that with walking for 20-30 seconds (the low-intensity phase of the interval). Keep repeating these alternating phases (sprint-walk-sprint-walk...) for a while (20-30 minutes total?).

    You can do the same sort of thing on your bike. Do some high-intensity sprints (on your bike) as I mentioned in my previous post. After the sprint of some duration (20-60 seconds), then do some very relaxed cycling (even coasting) for a similar duration. Keep repeating these alternating high and low phases while cycling.

    Does this make sense now?
     
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    oh yea.. nice training tatics.. usually i cycle i dun do coasting. i sprint most of the time with those buses and cars for like 200m just after the traffic lights.

    thank you anyways.. U rox man!
     

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