A Classic for LCW

Should be create a new thread?

Pemuda said:
Kinda sad , dont you think so. It requires a foreigner to spot a young talent. Am pretty sure if we did not have Frost back then, maybe we wont be looking at LCW today.

In the men's singles, Malaysia can only rely on LCW because BAM shot themselves in the foot. We continued to flog that dead horse HH. How can we develop another LCW when we continue to bet on HH??
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I am thinking should be create a new thread called eh..maybe something like "Hafiz out of BAM" :D:D So that, the BAM will be alarmed and then expels that guy from BAM. Wasting the country money and produce no results since 2003. Sigh.....Maybe one more thread for Kuan Beng Hong too... :D:D
 
Is unbelievable… LCW adapt to another style of playing and now with variety of arsenal. He should be a good bet for the olympics. Playing a one dimension game isnt going to take him far, when he had a drop in form a few months back, opponent was reading his game like reading a book. So his decision to be Misbunlised is really a good choice. Cheers
 
Off topic-I'm also in between..

Btw, for what LCW has done these past 2 weeks, i would say it was a very commendable and admirable effort~my congrats as well.:cool: However, if he wins the OG next yr, then i would probably then say, "A Classic for LCW" (a bit more pressure, as that should be the ultimate goal)..;):cool:
OneToughBirdie said:
...one other thing I noticed was the absence of the air-filled plastic stuff used in Anaheim, MAS, etc...those stuff (whatever they are called) are irritating and the French organizer did the right thing not to hand out those stuff.
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zqloy said:
U mean the clappers? :D
I like them, it brings on the atmosphere! Or maybe its just an asian thing? :p
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OneToughBirdie said:
Yeah, the clappers, thank you. I was in Anaheim for WC05 with our group of 14 friends and the clappers were so noisy, obscuring our view and irritating as heck....as for Asian thingie, yeah maybe for you young generation type having fun but for oldies like us, we rather quietly concentrate on the matches...a tale of 2 generations, hehehe!!!:D:p;)
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abedeng said:
He he, then I'm the one in between the two generations, not too fond of clappers whatsoever, but definitely cannot enjoy the match with quiet concentration. Needs some spark like the ones legendary venues such as Stadium Negara and Istora Senayan can give, some twenty years ago.
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..just like abedeng (only if they are played together in unison)..I know how OTB might've felt during the 2005 WC (as i also experienced that in 2005 S'pore Open and recently in the WC, well, the most latest one was during this yr's US Open). Yes, sitting and having our eardrums rattled with those balloon clappers can be somewhat a bit irritating, as they are quite loud; but when they're banged in unison, the sound can be somewhat uplifting:cool:..Add that with the drum beating, like in the recent WC, and one'll get the feeling just like when one watched the Semis and Finals. I personally enjoyed them & I can't imagine myself watching a baddy match without those:p;)
 
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Pemuda said:
Lin Dan is a proven performer. The lad can handle the big occasions while our LCW have faltered when it matters most.
I have said skills and technical abilities wise, I rate both Lin Dan and LCW pretty much equal. What separates them is the mental toughness, which Lin Dan has loads.
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concur with you on this one.
 
Pemuda said:
Kinda sad , dont you think so. It requires a foreigner to spot a young talent. Am pretty sure if we did not have Frost back then, maybe we wont be looking at LCW today.
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Different people spot different things. It may well have been somebody in Malaysia. Your notion is rather romantic. I can assure you there must be other talented people out there who have not been spotted.:)
 
ctjcad said:
Btw, for what LCW has done these past 2 weeks, i would say it was a very commendable and admirable effort~my congrats as well.:cool: However, if he wins the OG next yr, then i would probably then say, "A Classic for LCW" (a bit more pressure, as that should be the ultimate goal)..;):cool:
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I think what has made the last two matches of LCW in French SS potential classics (time will prove whether a match deserves such a status) is that LCW managed to turn his disadvantage of injury into his advantage with clever, highly adaptive game play - something that even LD and TH may not be able to achieve under similar circumstances. Everyone faces pressure at OG and a personal breakthrough in winning his first OG gold ever is not sufficient to make the match a classic. Maybe (I said "MAYBE") by the time LCW wins the OG gold (10 months from now), he has already become the undisputed No.1 MS player in the world and he is merely justifying this status by winning the gold - and such a match is not necessarily a classic.
 
Pemuda said:
Lin Dan is a proven performer. The lad can handle the big occasions while our LCW have faltered when it matters most.
I have said skills and technical abilities wise, I rate both Lin Dan and LCW pretty much equal. What separates them is the mental toughness, which Lin Dan has loads.
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Sometimes I find the simpleton in you ,refreshing.
But LD has loads of mental toughness and can handle big occasions?
How was LD mentally tough when he held 8 matchpoints and yet lost to LCW in MO06?
He can handle big occasions? He lost to Unseeded Ronald Susilo in R1 of OG04, remember? LD lost to TH in WC05, yes? LD lost to TH in AG06?Where's the mental toughness on these occasions?
Oh I know what you mean about proven performer. LD won the WC consecutively in 06 and 07.But he did not have to prove himself.The toughest opponents he had proven against in WC06 was Hafiz;in WC07 was Sony.His teammates did the tough work for him(He said so himself) and he's just lucky to be the anointed one to receive the prize.I don't begrudge him his titles but I would call him a lucky general.Just like he's lucky that BCL was used as the guinea pig to calibrate against an injured but feisty LCW in FO07. Can you imagine how LD would look if he had played against an injured LCW and lost? LD would be a laughing stock.LYB is so sharp in protecting LD's image but he won't be able to do it all the time, in the run up to OG08.
Surely, Mr Pemuda, you are sophiscated enough to see through the LYB veil?
 
Chong wei use new tactic through the France Open. And it prove that is works well. All i can see his style of play in this tournament was, "slow play + his trademark's intercept drop shot. And most important is follow is his great smashes when his opponent is unaware."

This is really different with his previous play. Which is fast speed, and fast attack. His opponent had immune on this kind of play.

U can see with his slow play, he have the opportunity to "show" all his skill...
 
Inky2000 said:
I think what has made the last two matches of LCW in French SS potential classics (time will prove whether a match deserves such a status) is that LCW managed to turn his disadvantage of injury into his advantage with clever, highly adaptive game play - something that even LD and TH may not be able to achieve under similar circumstances. Everyone faces pressure at OG and a personal breakthrough in winning his first OG gold ever is not sufficient to make the match a classic. Maybe (I said "MAYBE") by the time LCW wins the OG gold (10 months from now), he has already become the undisputed No.1 MS player in the world and he is merely justifying this status by winning the gold - and such a match is not necessarily a classic.
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This can be a classic in clear thinking.Enjoy it.
 
Pemuda said:
Kinda sad , dont you think so. It requires a foreigner to spot a young talent. Am pretty sure if we did not have Frost back then, maybe we wont be looking at LCW today.

In the men's singles, Malaysia can only rely on LCW because BAM shot themselves in the foot. We continued to flog that dead horse HH. How can we develop another LCW when we continue to bet on HH??
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politics???........:(:(:(
 
pjswift said:
Sometimes I find the simpleton in you ,refreshing.
But LD has loads of mental toughness and can handle big occasions?
How was LD mentally tough when he held 8 matchpoints and yet lost to LCW in MO06?
He can handle big occasions? He lost to Unseeded Ronald Susilo in R1 of OG04, remember? LD lost to TH in WC05, yes? LD lost to TH in AG06?Where's the mental toughness on these occasions?
Oh I know what you mean about proven performer. LD won the WC consecutively in 06 and 07.But he did not have to prove himself.The toughest opponents he had proven against in WC06 was Hafiz;in WC07 was Sony.His teammates did the tough work for him(He said so himself) and he's just lucky to be the anointed one to receive the prize.I don't begrudge him his titles but I would call him a lucky general.Just like he's lucky that BCL was used as the guinea pig to calibrate against an injured but feisty LCW in FO07. Can you imagine how LD would look if he had played against an injured LCW and lost? LD would be a laughing stock.LYB is so sharp in protecting LD's image but he won't be able to do it all the time, in the run up to OG08.
Surely, Mr Pemuda, you are sophiscated enough to see through the LYB veil?
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And I find the git in you ... mind blowing, to say the least.

Lets look at the achievements in the big tournaments. Surely, you need to have some mental toughness to bag em' titles, right? Lets discuss facts, not go on a meaningless rant here.

Ok, how many World Championships titles does Lin Dan and LCW have? Well, Lin Dan won it twice. LCW? Ohhh, you are going to say that on his way to winning his two WC titles, Lin Dan had it easy ... no tough opponents and etc etc. Dude, this is where the git in you comes into play. If it was 'easy' with no tough opponents where was LCW in Madrid and KL??? Oppps he kinda tripped on himself in Madrid, making the quarter finals and in KL this year, he shot himself in the foot big time, eh? Maybe Yap Kim Hock should not have pushed the boy too hard. Or maybe on the way to the stadium, the traffic jams in KL was too much.

Well, say what you want, Lin Dan got em' 2 WC titles and LCW got zippo.

What about those super series/grand prix titles, Lin Dan got 22. LCW??
Lin Dan won the All England 3 times, LCW??
If you think that all these titles won by Lin Dan is 'lucky', then I must say you are a funny guy... comical to some extend.
 
with this new style..
LCW can play more calm..
coz he dun need to rush for the shuttle..
juz hold a sec and think wat shot is more confusing..
+ if he play not too fast, there will be less mistakes too..
he really dominant all the 4 corners of the french open court...
great to see his new style works,
but i think the previous fast & furious style giv the audience more excitement..
 
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