OSS Vs NSS: What could be the final score for player A & B ? Hi Athelete1234, Playing the OSS, if for every mistake you make, your opponent makes 2, then you could beat your opponent 15-0. Playing the NSS, you could only beat your opponent 21-10. Cheers... chris@ccc
you want comebacks? PO 2007, MD, KKK/TBH came back in the 2nd set against GZD/XZB from 10-19 to win it 26-24!! it is possible at a high level and we have better proof
sorry if I came across as sarcastic, I've neglected explaining my counterpoint to "with the nss a few mistakes causes you to lose the game", being brief isn't a good thing I guess, sorry... first and foremost: your opponent makes roughly just as much mistakes as you do, if he doesn't he deserves to win second: in the oss errors weren't benificial for your score either, you'd continuesly lose points or the serve. EDIT/added: Though I must admit, the gametime-argument is the only valid argument if you ask me... But then, the counterpoint would be match intensity. (I'm still just as tired from singles now as I was with the oss, matches are shorter but a lot more fierce/explosive... I guess it's a matter of opinion
Should we be playing very differently under NSS as compared to be playing under OSS Hi azabaz_ipoh, As at today, 29-July-2007, and as I am typing, the NSS needs only 52 more votes to surpass the OSS. Greetings jerby and all, Yes, that's why the Badminton Central Discussion Forum is such a good place for us. It allows each of us to state our own opinions. And for new BC members wanting to read more about this matter, regarding 'Should we be playing very differently under the NSS as compared to be playing under the OSS (Singles, in particular)?'... , may I suggest to you to read this thread located at: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33198 Although, this is a big thread with 431 replies(some off-topic ), it might encourage/generate your thoughts deeper into this NSS Vs OSS debate. Cheers... chris@ccc
yeah, it is catching up pretty quick huh? well, i still use the OSS when i play now but i have no problem if i have to play NSS. so, i wont feel too bad if the NSS surpassed the OSS. life's like that. the new will make the old obsolete. however, i think in this case, the OSS will stay around for many years to come. at least not until the generation of players that grew up with the OSS stop playing badminton altogether .
We should not confuse stability with stagnation Hi azabaz_ipoh, Yes, I agree with you that the OSS will stay around for many years to come. This is especially so for the many of our social players in Badminton not influenced by BWF. The OSS is good for the stability/enjoyment of our beloved Badminton played by so many who were introduced to play it that way, me included. However, what I would like to add is that we should not confuse stability with stagnation. Cheers... chris@ccc
I do not mind if the game evolve naturally from OSS to NSS. However, this had not been the case. It had been artifically manipulated by Punch G. to please the powers that be of television, not to improve the game. I find this unacceptable, especially so when after more than a year, there is no significant improvement whatsoever. The badmintion professional players still earn peanuts compare to that of football, tennis, golf etc. And television telecast is as dismal as ever. I has a strong feeling that none of the lofty objectives set by WBF will ever be achieved.
How to commercialise Badminton? Hi 2NDround, The natural evolution/process in which to change from the OSS is not difficult; it is only the first step that causes distress. The lofty objectives/ideas set by BWF are not theirs. They borrowed them from FIFA(Football). They copied them from ITF(Tennis). They stole them from FIA(Formula One Auto Racing). So much commercial rights are now gained by FIFA, ITF, FIA, etc... If you don't like the ways how they commercialise their sports, whose would you use? Cheers... chris@ccc
new system Played the old system for several decades and went into the new one very skeptical. But i wouldn't go back- new is definitely better.
We have stan_bischof back again !!! Hi stan_bischof, Have not heard from you for years... Good to have you back at Badminton Central. Cheers... chris@ccc
The demands of our Commercial sponsors & TV advertisers Hi viver, The media is actually bowing to the demands of our Commercial sponsors & TV advertisers. Did you know that we in Australia, when we hold our Australian Open(Tennis), events could be scheduled to be played from 10pm to 2am, instead of from 7pm to 11pm? This time schedule is supposedly to be better for our American TV audience. Just imagine this scenario... The World Badminton Championships, @Melbourne 2025, the Mens Singles event to commence at 12:00 midnight(Melbourne time). Winner of Mens Singles Prize = US$2,000,000 By 2025, we hope that BWF could perform similar to ITF(Tennis) and our top 100 Professional Badminton players would be all millionaires, entertaining us at home via TV. Yes... I would/should think it would be terrible for our Professional Players to commence playing at midnight, just to please the whole world via TV. Unfortunately, when the whole world wants to see it live... I could not see a better solution. Cheers... chris@ccc
For 2 million dollars, if I am a professional player, I don't mind playing at any hour, let alone at midnight. But will we see 2 million dollars prize money? Will WBF succeed? Will professional players become truly independent (like in tennis)? We want to see all that but will it happened? More importantly, will WBF make it happen? Let us wait and see, but I am very doubtful it will happen, at least not within the next 10 or even 15 years.
Badminton will still be called a 'Backyard Sport'??? Hi 2NDround, They say that the present event of sports, such as the Formula1 Racing, Tennis, Golf, etc..., is nothing but for entertainment, calling sportspersons entertainers. In a way, this is true. And because those events of sports are staged and moved from country to country, they are called Travelling Circuses. And again, in a way, this is true. BWF is already having Badminton staged and moved from country to country. If BWF cannot borrow, imitate and follow what the other World Sporting Bodies have done, then Badminton will still be called a 'Backyard Sport'. Personally, I prefer the staging of Badminton events to be called a Travelling Circus. And let the best players entertain us. Cheers... chris@ccc
Hello Chris, Well, it seems that we agree on something - the scoring format change is only bowing to media demands and not an innovation to the game itself. Other sports also have same issues, but unlike badminton they did not change their format drastically to my understanding.
After a prolonged period of NSＳ， Ｉ ｔｒｉｅｄ ａ ｇａｍｅ ｗｉｔｈ ｔｈｅ ｏｌｄ ｓｃｏｒｉｎｇ ｓｙｓｔｅｍ， Ｉ＇ｄ ｈａｖｅ ｔｏ ａｄｍｉｔ ｔｈｅ ＮＳＳ has certain advantages. Because it's easier to get points on board, new players get a sense of achievement and are encouraged to play and stay attracted the game. I rather it be 5x15point format though.
Our current BWF management is bolder than our previous IBF management Hi viver, This is what I found... The former IBF management was rather conservative in their thinking, so not many changes were made over many years. The newer IBF (or BWF) management now wants to catch up with the rest of the other sports. So, suddenly we see ourselves finding more drastic or daring changes taken by them. Cheers... chris@ccc
