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Discussion in 'Indonesia Professional Players' started by mnda_315, May 17, 2005.
it's like kido's style when celebrating a winning point
..who is da man behind Djarum Badminton club??..hmm, let's just say he is a person with a lot of passion & love for INA badminton and badminton in general.......As a proof, just take a look at all of the recent success Djarum's badminton has had..
The Djarum shirt looks very good
They are definitely better than the dull Pelatnas shirt.
Indeed! If not for Djarum's commitment and passion for badminton, players like Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki, Rendra Wijaya/Fran Kurniawan and to certain extent Shendy Puspa Irawati will have rotted in Pelatnas with no outside exposure
Look at how Rian/Yoke prosper after just a few tourneys Compare that to Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan who is supposedly of the same batch as them They are not even sent to Dutch Open where they could at least enter the SF and fight for honours with both Rian/Yoke and Rendra/Fran. Even Hendra A. Gunawan (25 yo now)/Joko Riyadi only managed to get more exposure this year.
Rendra Wijaya managed one Final appearance in a GP event in his 2nd tourney under Djarum's flag. Fran Kurniawan also managed to get into another Final (JPGG Indonesia Challenge with Ade Lukas) and a couple of Semi-Finals this year (German Open and Osaka Int Challenge with Sigit Budiarto). He is even exposed to the All-England, Singapore and Indonesia SS + 2 more GP Gold Events, something that he will probably never have dreamt of if he's still in Pelatnas. Even Yoke still has yet to compete in the All-England That's why Rendra's decision to quit Pelatnas is wise and kudos to Djarum for letting him partner Fran again and producing a good result in the past week.
Looking at the Junior pairs, even Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan look more promising than Fernando Kurniawan/Subakti. Edo is even paired with the unfortunate Lingga Lie in the upcoming Vietnam Open Lingga needs to get out of Pelatnas and perhaps pair up with Yoga in Singapore?
Fernando/Subakti had better results compared with Afiat/Danny Bawa or Afiat/Wifqy. Poor they rarely sent to any tournament, PBSI no money to send them.
So do Lingga Lie, had good record paired with Yulianti but PBSI splited them with Lingge/Devi & Tantowi/Yulianti. Sound good if Lingga focused in MD paired with M. Rijal and please no more Djarum's player move to Singapore following Eng Hian, stay in Djarum is better.
2 Djarum's players in SIN are Ardian Kusnanto (ex Belly Gunawan/Ardian pair) and Danny Bawa C (ex Afiat/Danny or Komang/Dany pair in Djarum)
Congrats to Rian/Yoke!! Way to go!!
Edo/Bakti have been unimpressive so far this year, languishing in 100th position in the ranking table:
JPGG Indonesia-Surabaya Challenge 2007 R16
Cheers Asian Satellite Championships 2007 QF
Vietnam Int Challenge 2007 R16
KLRC New Zealand Open 2007 R16
Smiling Fish Asian Satellite Championships 2007 R16
Compare that to Wifqi/Afiat (ranked no 70):
Waikato International 2007 WINNER
Ballarat International 2007 SF
JPGG Indonesia-Surabaya Challenge 2007 SF
SCG Thailand Open GP Gold 2007 R32 -- this is a notable result because they managed to clear the qualifiers, beating the more fancied Abdul Latif Mohd Razif/Chan Peng Soon (a strong junior MD pair for Malaysia) and Andrew Bowman/Kristian Roebuck. They lost narrowly 20-22, 19-21 to Howard Bach/Bob Malaythong Khan.
Vietnam Int Challenge 2007 R32
Smiling Fish Asian Satellite Championships 2007 SF
Direct comparison of the tourneys both pairs are involved in show that Wifqi/Afiat progressed further in the Thai Satellite and Indonesia Challenge.
As for Lingga Lie, he's so unfortunate It's his luck that Yulianti manages to show consistenly good results with Tantowi Ahmad while he himself cannot manage the same thing with Devi Tika.
Fernado/Subakti beat Afiat/Danny or Afiat/Wifqi in Milo 2006, Junior Dutch Open 2007 & Junior German Open 2007.
Lingga Lie still got high apprecciation in Djarum, by choosen him in PON/National Games 2008 candidate (who I noticed this team is 1st choice of Djarum, but posible to be changed if Olympics players won't allowed to play there)
The team limit are (3 MS, 2 MD, 2 WS, 1 WD, 2 XD)
The Candidate are :
Bandar Sigit Pamungkas
surprised no Febe, Rian, Fran & Shendy
Okay...I did overlook the German and Dutch Juniors
Edo/Bakti indeed beat Wifqi/Afiat in the Dutch Junior Final 21-16, 21-18.
They went on to win both tourneys
Wifqi/Afiat also reached the SF of the German Junior and lost to a Korean pair Chung Eui Seok/Kim Young Sun 20-22, 21-11, 20-22.
..(back on topic)...
With Rian's Dutch Open title this yr, after winning it last yr w/ a different player, will he (Djarum's coaches) forge/experiment a new partnership, w/a new player, for next yr?? Or will Djarum keep Rian's and Yoke's current partnership from now onwards??..
I don't think Rian and Yoke will be split
They are both only 23 this year and should aim to win the World Championships in 2-3 years time.
The same goes for Rendra and Fran.
Step by step, Rian-Yoke...
Djarum does not have any better players than Rian-Yoke outside Pelatnas... The other 2 Djarum players that can argueably match these guys are Luluk and Ahsan who are in Pelatnas...
I think badMania predicts correctly, it is highly unlikely that Rian-Yoke can qualify for the 2008 Olympics [unless Luluk-Alven and Joko-Hendra both got injured]... It is more realistic to aim for the 2009, 2010, & 2011 World Championships...
In the meantime, Rian-Yoke should aim to win a GP Gold tournament first... Then go the semifinal of a Superseries... Then actually winning one of the Superseries... So far this year, only Cai-Fu , KKK-TBH , and Lee-Jung  and Candra-Tony ... Gosh, even Kido-Hendra did not win any this year, eh? But Kido-Hendra have won several Super Series level tournament before winning the World Championship...
Rian-Yoke's career (in brief)
1st International Challenge title: 2007 Indonesia Challenge
1st GP title: 2007 Dutch Open
1st GP Gold title: ??? [quite possibly the 2007 Russian Gold GP]
1st Super Series title: ??? [maybe the 2008 Denmark SS, to make Yannie happy! ]
1st World Championship title: ??? [difficult to say... 2011 WC? ]
1st Olympic title: ??? [2012 Olympics or never ]
Step by step, Rian-Yoke...
Yup...step-by-step is the keywords. Steady but good progress is more important than a sudden burst then nil (aka Luluk/Alvent in 2004). Depending on the draw, I am predicting them to go far in the Russian Open GP Gold.
As for Super Series, depends on draw and luck too.....very hard to say I would say the SS after the Olympics would be a good bet since most pairs have already been exhausted and would likely rest.
World Championships....hmm.....its either 2010 or 2011. 2009 would be a possibility if Rian/Yoke have established themselves well next year and collect as many playing hrs against the top pairs as possible.
So far, a victory against Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man remains their only victory over a top 10 pair.
congratzzz rian n yoke...!!!!!
Go Go DenMaRk oPen 2007 !!!!
hEhE ^ ^ more be a wiNnEr.. mOre GiviNG hahahahah
THX SO MUCH =p
Just a simple target for this week's Denmark Open SS:
Beat a qualifying pair (likely to be a home pair) and set up an encounter with either Luluk/Alvent or Albertus/Yohan.
A QF result in Denmark Open SS will be tremendous and it will be interesting to see how Rian/Yoke fare against Luluk/Alvent (if both pairs win their first match).
I agree... just reaching the Denmark SS QF is a tremendous achievement for this young pair...
ginOng the best euy !!
hi All ,
long time i can't online :crying::crying: really miss this forum . Btw congrats to rian n yoke on winning dutch open 2007 . Hope , rian n yoke will win on denmark open.
This morning , my friend said something funny , she said Rian is "Fargenic" ( it's mean , rian is good looking when we see him from far away , but so-so if we see close) . Please don't be angry rian , it's just joke.