BG80 vs. BG85 durability

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  1. taneepak

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    Vectran is not rough-surfaced. It actually glitters in all it's gold colour splendour. It is a high-performance thermoplastic multifilament yarn spun from liquid crystal polymer. When used in strings, vectran's properties of high strength and modulus, minimal creep, second-to-none damping characteristics, minimal moisture or oxygen absorption, etc, are obvious. But the quantity of vectran used in strings is tiny. If they were to use an all-vectran string, the string life could easily double and with minimal tension loss.
     
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    29lbs. string jobs to kids and beginners? :eek:

    Isn't that like "crazy" and highly not recommended?

    Maybe the kids and beginners are super power bombers and need more control. :p :D
     
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    We've been over this subject before in other threads.

    The consensus of opinion at BC is that high tension is not suitable for beginners or children, because it will be like playing with a wooden board. They won't be able to hit good shots, and they may injure themselves in the process. I agree with this consensus.

    Taneepak, however, believes that high tension (26-29 lbs) can benefit relative beginners. I believe he gives them opportunities to try out rackets with high string tensions. He says that some of them enjoy the feel of high tension and it benefits their game.

    Taneepak's ideas about high string tension have inflamed various threads in the past. In particular, Cooler and Taneepak have enjoyed some long-winded thread-destroying duels over this subject.

    Rather than argue, again and again, about our differences of opinion, I think it is best if we just respect Taneepak's opinion :) In particular, please do not bait Taneepak into being forced to defend his beliefs.
     
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    Gollum: thanks for the info, I didn't know about this nor do I want to get into it. :)

    I agree with you though, in general I feel higher tension should go to the more advanced players for the reasons you mentioned.

    Amen. :D
     
  5. LazyBuddy

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    Ok, let me be a bit off topic on my own thread. ;)

    Fake string has lower cost in manufacturing, storage, transportation when compare to rackets / shuttles. Therefore, the profit margin is still desirable. :(
     
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    Now now . . . we must not forget that Taneepak do string repairs and encourage newbie to use high tension. :D :) :rolleyes:

     
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    I know from personal experience, I had 2 beginners try my rackets strung at 29lbs. and they all started to getting sore arms after a few days. Then went back to 20lbs. and they were OK.

    Go figure. Can anyone tell me why this is? Thanks.
     
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    sound to me like a technique problem :)
     
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    Offtopic? I took up taneepak's suggestion and had my 3UG4 AT800DE JP strung @ 28lbs with Gosen Tecgut. The feeling's awesome :)
     
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    The problem with BG66 is the durability. Sometimes i break one string a week. I do agree its cheaper.
     
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    And it will cost us alot more as well :)
     
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    You can get this string in Japan. BG88ti feel a little stiff and IMO less feel. But it provides power and durable.
     
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    There is in fact many fakes strings. I heard some of them are produced in China and.... INDIA! I've tried some which was given to me... what can i say.. just bad quality strings.
     
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    I have seen a few rackets that are fakes & were purchased in India. But I dont know if they are made in India or being imported from somewhere else !!!!
     
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    Update

    After about 3 weeks of heavy usage, the BG80 snapped 1 day prior to the tourny. It did not show too much sign of fraying before snapping, and no, it's not a miss hit. It snapped right in the middle of the center main.

    Strung the same racket with BG80 again overnight, then rushed into the tourny in like 5 hrs. The performance was good. Good smashing power. :p
     
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    Good to know that BG80 performs well. I have 20 sets coming. I just break BG-85 way too easily now, I broke 4 sets int he last week, averaging 2-3 hours of play per set of string. :crying: Hopefully BG-80 will last significantly longer. If not, I'll going to have to continue with the BG-65 mains and BG-85 crosses. :p
     
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    how many lbs u r running it?
     
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    Used to go 27/29 but recently went down to 26/28. Now I'm down to 25/27 in hopes that I don't break as many strings. :crying: :p
     
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    I thought these bg 80,85 were stiff, not soft
     
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    BG80 and BG80 will in practice feel a bit sharp-some may call it hard-on impact. Because of the vectran material used BG80 and BG85 have outstanding vibration damping characteristics, and excellent creep resistance against tension loss. It is for this reason airbags used to cushion the landing of the Pathfinder's landing on Mars in 1997. This excellent damping property is supposed to make BG85 and BG80 absorb vibrations and give you a "soft" feeling. However, the meaning of "soft" here is not the same as a tofu type or soft like jelly or, which give you a dead feeling, but is one of tactile and touch. A hard feeling is one that is similar to a break wall feeling of a string that is tensioned at a tension that is way beyond your ability to play.
    Another superior property of vectran is its excellent creep resistance. However this property also tends to give some problem on BG85 and BG80 to players, because their elasticity is very different to that of other Yonex strings. The problem comes when you use the same tensions that you use on other strings on these two strings. You should use 10% to 15% lower tensions.
     

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