Blibli INDONESIA Open 2019 : Round of 32 - FINAL (16-21 July)

[mohans]

That’s exactly what I thought too like what the hell? Two seeded players in R8 and aren’t being put on tv court is ridiculous. Not to mention they’re classic rivals in WS, equivalent to that of RI vs TTY.
Also no WD match on tv court but two MD matches instead because the host doesn’t care about discipline they have no representatives in and who cares about other nations? lol

Same thoughts. It seems organizers made sure host nation matches on ct1 and the rest of the other matches on ct1 were randomly picked.

I would like to understand the logic behind having all HKG MS on ct1. To add, both unseeded as well. Even CL vs LD or SYQ matches get ct2


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[super-g]

You predicted him to be out of top 10 exactly a year ago. It seems he is hanging to his top 8 spot and will continue to do so for a while (soon SWH will slip out of top 8)

True, his decline has been slower than I expected. Being seeded in tournament has helped him get easier early round matches but not anymore. He is ranked 9 at the moment, not 8 anymore. Big difference in terms on draws.

Explain ‘tamely’ in your post? Just losing the match in 2 games is what you mean?

He played very passively, did not take any initiative. His opponent was able to play without pressure and score points quite easily against Srikanth sub-par defence. Also there was no change of tactics or anything after losing first game. Just playing the same passive game, in my opinion his opponent did not play especially well and would have been very beatable. Last time Srikanth beat him in two games in January.

But going by your routine counters to the shocking reactions of LD’s and ASG’ defeats, I would rather say #9 losing to #13 is no big deal?

Honestly who can be shocked that Lin Dan lost to Chou Tien Chen? It was very much expected result. But that match was of very high quality badminton and both players had a chance to grab it.
Ginting loss was quite a surprise on paper, but after seeing that match Wangchareon played really well and that match had even higher quality. So Ginting did not lose because he played poorly, he was just against opponent who was exceptional today.

Btw, who are those ‘hungry young players’ trying to overtake him. Name a few please.

Kantaphon Wangchareon, Anders Antonsen and Lee Zii Jia.

 

[tepokbulu]

indonesians don't care about shindu vs okuhara. that's why it is on court 2
if it is in india or japan, sure it will be on court 1
indonesians care about indonesian players. so all are on court 1. good
hongkong vs hongkong on court 1 because indonesians care about other nations too
it is common in badminton
two ws already on court 1

 

[Twitchington]

indonesians don't care about shindu vs okuhara. that's why it is on court 2
if it is in india or japan, sure it will be on court 1
indonesians care about indonesian players. so all are on court 1. good
hongkong vs hongkong on court 1 because indonesians care about other nations too
it is common in badminton
two ws already on court 1

I’m sure if two seeded players of different nations meet in QF anywhere else, they’ll be put on tv court. It doesn’t have to only be in their respective countries. Sure there’re two WS matches but wouldn’t it make more sense for NO vs PVS to be telecast internationally since they’re both more well known (don’t forget not just Indonesians watch the matches) instead of AY vs NJ (unseeded and probably will be a one way traffic from AY)
Of course Indonesians will care about Indonesians players. But putting ALL Indonesians matches on tv court is a bit much.

 

[mohans]

He played very passively, did not take any initiative. His opponent was able to play without pressure and score points quite easily against Srikanth sub-par defence. Also there was no change of tactics or anything after losing first game. Just playing the same passive game, in my opinion his opponent did not play especially well and would have been very beatable. Last time Srikanth beat him in two games in January.

Except for the first half of the first game, the match had a lot of long rallies in the drifting conditions. The match lasted close to 40 minutes for a 2-setter, which itself is a testament of pretty decent competition. Agreed SK was playing a patient game by his own standards, but never was far behind his opponent. In fact, he squandered a sizable 2-3 points at 18-15 or something to lose the 2nd game. NKL played pretty well to keep SK’s occasional attack at bay. Don’t know what quality of badminton you would expect to see.

Kantaphon Wangchareon, Anders Antonsen and Lee Zii Jia.

Thanks for your next prediction Mr. Octopus.
If you remember you predicted KM not to win any titles this year after his losses at Malaysia and Indonesia masters early this year. What probability your predictions have come good so far?


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[mohans]

indonesians don't care about shindu vs okuhara. that's why it is on court 2
if it is in india or japan, sure it will be on court 1
indonesians care about indonesian players. so all are on court 1. good
hongkong vs hongkong on court 1 because indonesians care about other nations too
it is common in badminton
two ws already on court 1

Thanks for the coherent explanation


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[MezzL]

Just watched the match between wahyu/ade against yuta/endo, what the hell was that call at 14-14 ? how in the world the line judge called that out ? also, I'm not sure yuta/endo will survive against ahsan/hendra with that defensive approach, they can frustate wahyu/ade with their defense but ahsan/hendra will kill them if they still being that passive.

 

[trizzforce]

Just watched the match between wahyu/ade against yuta/endo, what the hell was that call at 14-14 ? how in the world the line judge called that out ? also, I'm not sure yuta/endo will survive against ahsan/hendra with that defensive approach, they can frustate wahyu/ade with their defense but ahsan/hendra will kill them if they still being that passive.

They won't survive. They can't win against intelligent players. Usually when people smash incessantly without creativity, they usually win, which was the case yesterday. I'm supporting the Japanese but I think it's a big task to make it past this stage. I'm just hoping the match will have the quality of NZ Open finals.

 

[Cheung]

Same thoughts. It seems organizers made sure host nation matches on ct1 and the rest of the other matches on ct1 were randomly picked.

I would like to understand the logic behind having all HKG MS on ct1. To add, both unseeded as well. Even CL vs LD or SYQ matches get ct2


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Wong Wing Ki's parents are from Indonesia. He is pretty popular in Indonesia although he himself was born in Hong Kong. I guess that this is the reason as he has stated an affinity for Indonesia in the past.

 

[minions]

Wong Wing Ki's parents are from Indonesia. He is pretty popular in Indonesia although he himself was born in Hong Kong. I guess that this is the reason as he has stated an affinity for Indonesia in the past.

Seems like it. I assume that some Indonesians are aware of this. Once they know that someone has familial ties with Indonesia, they become easily attached or related.

 

[Yoji]

Just watched the match between wahyu/ade against yuta/endo, what the hell was that call at 14-14 ? how in the world the line judge called that out ? also, I'm not sure yuta/endo will survive against ahsan/hendra with that defensive approach, they can frustate wahyu/ade with their defense but ahsan/hendra will kill them if they still being that passive.

They should have admitted it. Poor sportmanships from EndoW. They were scrambling for it, both of them. Its not like the shuttle even got past them that they cant see it. Its like so what if they end up winning the title here.

 

[It'sMeMeMe]

regardless VWWK status i still think the last 4 matches on court 1 should be swapped ....come on organizer.... there's already been hawkeye screwups regardless who's at wrong... come on make better schedule jeez....

 

[Yoji]

regardless VWWK status i still think the last 4 matches on court 1 should be swapped ....come on organizer.... there's already been hawkeye screwups regardless who's at wrong... come on make better schedule jeez....

No one cares about the last 4 matches.. but i think AA vs LZJ is good. Its better than putting a WomenDouble match (for other matches, i suppose)

 

[sen]

What? NO vs PVS on court 2 and NKL vs WWKV on court 1. Pretty well organized!


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TV seems to give a lot of revenue to the organisers. Of course the TV station wants to broadcast mostly the Indonesians players so they will get higher viewership. They will probably start 12:30 halfway through WS matches and then all the way until Fajar/Rian matches. If still have time, they will broadcast the next WS match, may not be until the end. The Hongkong MS will not be broadcast.

So very well organised and time for the TV to want to sponsor future events

 

[minions]

Country representatives in QF

9 - CHN
8 - JPN
5 - INA
4 - MAS
3 - THA
2 - KOR, TPE, HKG, ENG
1 - IND, DEN, USA

Seeded players left in QF

MS - 2
WS - 6
MD - 5
WD - 7
XD - 3

 

[huangkwokhau]

Pls note that not all matches are dine by organizer.. there are Trans, Infront and BWF..
As a host, like others, we can pick up 5 matches..we pay for Trans to broadcast the matches and of course, we put Indonesian players first as we do not know how many they will be in SF .. other host have done same things..

 

[huangkwokhau]

Dine: done...

Pls note that not all matches are dine by organizer.. there are Trans, Infront and BWF..
As a host, like others, we can pick up 5 matches..we pay for Trans to broadcast the matches and of course, we put Indonesian players first as we do not know how many they will be in SF .. other host have done same things..

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[CLELY]

QUARTERFINAL (12.00pm) : https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/...81BCD7-C90F-482F-8CCF-96EFE0C6C8E4&d=20190719

MEN'S SINGLES CATASTROPHE
Almost all top guns ended their campaign in last sixteen, far from expected yet dramatic. Anthony Ginting was leading all the way in opening game but couldn't convert at the end, he bounced back in second game convincingly but the tide returned to Thailand rising star Kantaphon Wangcharoen who silenced Istora ferocious spectators, 22-20 / 10-21 / 21-18. At adjacent court Kento Momota stunned by the inconsistent Chinese player Huang Yu Xiang in three games. Momota lost physically and couldn't control the match completely. A heartbreaking news arrived for China camp when their number one player Shi Yu Qi got horrible injury, severe twisted ankle, it's questionable whether this tall young man could participate Basel world meet. His senior compatriots also fail to go further in this tournament, Lin Dan can't pass Chou Tien Chen while Chen Long lost narrowly to Malaysian new prospect Lee Zii Jia in marathon match, 16-21 / 21-19 / 20-22. Former champion Srikanth Kidambi also add the list of surprising setbacks, eliminated by Ng Ka Long. Only two seededs left, Jonatan Christie and Chou TC who will facing each other this evening.

BIG NAMES STAY ON COURSE
A big match between two skillful players will open today's quarterfinal, Tai Tzu Ying who made good comeback to pull off in opening game over Busanan Ongbamrungphan while Ratchanok Intanon needed to dig deep before tackles home favourite Gregoria Mariska Tunjung in three games, it's Indonesian youngster couldn't hold her nerve in crucial tight stage of deciding game as more experienced and matured opponent had forte to stay calm and focus. Another familiar showdown to watch, Pusarla Sindhu versus Nozomi Okuhara, rematch of phenomenal 2017 Glasgow World Championships final. Last China WS standing, Chen Yu Fei will take on Zhang Beiwen who conquered He Bing Jiao in close contest. One more quarters tie will confront Akane Yamaguchi against Nitchaon Jindapol.

• Practically only three nations are involved in men's doubles last eight, China, Japan and host Indonesia. Top-seed and defending champions Gideon/Sukamuljo are encircled by Chinese combinations, they have new scratch pair Ou XY/Zhang N and will meet either Li/Liu or He JT/Tan Q in semifinal. Indonesia-Japan duel served in bottom half of draw, All England Champions Ahsan/Setiawan have Endo/Watanabe whilst Alfian/Ardianto will be challenged by Hoki/Kobayashi who downed more favoured teammates Kamura/Sonoda last night.

• Four Japanese pairs are doing their routine, one final four berth has been secured. Two Korean formulas are trying to shake Japan stranglehold at top-half draw, Lee/Shin facing World Champions Matsumoto/Nagahara, Kim/Kong who tamed local hopefuls Polii/Rahayu yesterday in 94 minutes battle will find Olympic Champions Matsutomo/Takahashi. China-Japan clash will be on card for tomorrow semis at the opposite draw.

• Malaysian mixed doubles squad shine in Istora with three representatives, the veterans Chan/Goh will see home last hopeful in this category Ahmad/Kandow. Tan/Lai will seek first ever victory over English pair The Adcocks while Goh/Shevon Lai have world number two Wang YL/Huang DP, an intriguing duel to follow as the Chinese trailing 1-3 for their head to head stats.

LIVE TV COVERAGE

 

[CLELY]

MD : INA, CHN, JPN
WD : KOR, CHN, JPN

That's why singles category is more competitive.

 

[sautom88]

How come there is no match on court 1?