So the process draw for the 8 teams who qualify to QF is: The top teams of each group will be ranked in order of their strength in the manner described in Regulation 3.4.6, based on the most recently published World Ranking immediately preceding the date of the draw. (The world ranking date used will be 6 May 2010) These teams will be considered as Seeds No. 1 to 4 for the draw. The seeding report of 6th May 2010 will determine the positions of teams by draw lot • Seed 1 to be placed at position No 1. (the top draw) • Seed 2 to be placed at position No 8 (The bottom of the draw) • Seed 3 - 4 to be drawn by lots at position No.3 and 6 (middle of the draws) • Seeds 5 – 8 to be drawn by lots at positions 2, 4, 5 and 7
Based on the draw: For Thomas Cup: the top team from each group will be: China, Malaysia, Denmark and Indonesia. South Korea, Japan, Germany and India will be runner up. Ironically, Korea can meet China again in QF. Korea will be the toughest runner up to play for the 4 top team. For Uber Cup: The 4 top team will be: China, Indonesia, Japan and South Korea. Malaysia, Denmark, India and Germany/Russia will be the runner up. Germany/RUssia will be the easiest runner up team to beat. And Malaysia will be the toughest runner up team to play in QF cause they are the host. Looks like Uber Cup matches (except against China) will be very competitive indeed even in group stage compare with Thomas event.
Yup hanky-panky is exorcised permanently here. But with this new draw mechanism, the Champion and Runnerup of each group might still meet each other again in the q-final stage. What luck should that ever happen!!!
wow didn't pick Poland to take out Germany? I believe Germany will be indeed strong with their depth...but I think Wacha and his boys maybe able to pull off an upset =]
The Russian ladies have been pretty impressive lately. Of course I don't expect them to challenge for the UC now, but they are no pushover either. UC Gp C may produce unexpected results. Reminds me of Ladies Tennis where many Russians occupied top spots.
hanky-panky Korea or any other team still can do the hanky-panky thingy in the new drawing systems, the top two teams from each group will automatic qualify for the QF stage. For example, In TC Group A : KOREA just need to beat Peru and after that they can afford to field their weirdest line-up and lost against China in their next match. the outcome between on that match does not matter as China is seeded No#1 , they will only avoid to be draw against seed No#2 on QF , which is likely between MAS or INA, once the draw for QF being makes, still there is a chance for KOR to meet china again or any others team. So, to conserve their energy, KOREA will again applying the same hanky-panky business as in TC '2008 -- Becoz they know they will be in for QF stage for sure 100%; and with the new drawing mechanism, they are preparing for the worst ---> To meet China again in QF; they surely doesnt need to unleash all their secret weapon against their group opponents as early as possible
Hmm, does this mean that even if CHN were to lose their match against KOR and come 2nd in their group, they wud still be seede #1 for the QF draw?? Sounds not right, right? becos if that's the case, they might as well field an understrenght side against KOR and rest LD, CJ and BCL and field FHF as MS1...hehe
I would interpret it as whoever tops Gp A will be the 'No 1' seed for the QF draw placement (need not be China), and whoever tops Gp D would be the 'No 2' seed for the QF placement. So, after the round robin Gp matches, all the '1st place' team will avoid meeting in QF. Thus, for TC, if Korea comes in 2nd in Gp stage, there is a possiblity of meeting all '1st place' team (most likely China, Indo, M'sia & Denmark) in QF
This is the loophole for new drawing systems. Every team (besides Seed No#2) Finish as the 1st place or runners-up in their respective group does not matter as they might be pit against the strongest team in QF.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think all top 4 group winners will be separated for the QF draws. Only the 2nd placed team will be drawn to see who they meet in the QF. Thus if CHN and MAS top their group they can only meet each other in the SF earliest. And if CHN and INA top their group, they can only meet each other in the Final.
woohooo! The Draw for the Knock-out stage will be made in public, in Putra Stadium and shall also follow T & U Cup competition regulation 3.8:
Can enlighten what is regulation 3.8 The way the teams are drawn after the Group matches are not clear. What I interpret is Gp A 1st place will be in top half of QF, and Gp D 1st place will be in lower half of QF. Gp B & Gp C 1st place, depending on the draw, can be either in top half or lower half of QF (ie. it does not mean GP A 1st place will definately meet Gp B 1st place in SF). All the 2nd place team will be randomly drawn to fill the remaining QF places. Hope I interprete correctly
Ha ha ha, it is slightly clearer, as what I interpreted. They seed the teams on 6th May (before Gp matches are played). So, for TC, if China in seeded 1st in Gp A together with Korea, what happens if Korea beats China in Gp matches? Does this means China still seeded 1st in QF 'position'. If Yes, then there is no incentive for Korea to beat China in Group matches, right
NOOO... *well..how do i say it in english... if, Kor beat Chn in grp stage...it means a lot the top of the grup will be kor, mal, den, ina and those 4 top of the grups are drawn based on their rank per 6may means ina will be seed 1 (top); mal seed2 placed at 8 (bottom); kor&den are drawn to placed 3 and 6 and the runner up of the grup will be chn, jap, ger, ind (do not see the rank anymore) those 4 countries will be drawn to be placed at 2, 4, 5, 7 heheheh.... CCMIIW
The current TC seedings are for Group matches placement. Just wondering, there is a re-seeding based on 6th May world ranking of the Team, for QF placement. Is there a possibility of seeding "changed" (eg. Denmark becomes 2nd seed)? [Note that Denmark has been sending most of their top men's player to play in recent tournaments, but not the Asian countries. So, ranking on 6th May may change the Team ranking order] (Quoted from TC/UC rule: The world ranking date used will be 6 May 2010)
yup..thats correct there's possibility that the World team ranking may changed... and i am worried tha INA (used to be seeded 2 below CHN) can be overtaken by MAL or Den..becoz the poor result of most INA players in recent tournaments
