Can Lin Dan win the Beijing gold?

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  1. cooler

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    there are 2 morals to this story:

    1. some people like u are just too blur and only worry about their next meal.
    2. the standard of badminton in china is so high such that even ZJH, whom many BF memebers considered him as one of the best, who pawned joko at 1990 AE to win the MS title, can't get a coaching job in china AND YET Joko Suprianto, the loser and totally owned by ZJH, became the head coach for INA. :p :cool:er

    If u don't know, joko totally pawned malaysia's foo kwok kong in the semi final.
    ie. MAL standard back then are......well, u got the drift

    SibugiChai, pawned.:p
     
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    Nope, joko was very sharp that week. In the semi final, he totally waxed foo kwok kong, a #1 or #2 MAL MS player back then.

    Nice try but u r making silly postulation, your common trait, without any substance nor hint of knowledge in historical event
     
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  3. taufik-ist

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    a good player won't always be a good coach .. joko never became ina's head coach :p... he was only a ms coach, he trained sony.. and ina's head coach was christian hadinata at that time :D
     
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    yes, i stretch out my neck to say joko as head coach of the men singles but my point was made, he was given a coaching job in the national squad. To be a head of anything in INA, one has to be politically astute, and joko ain't that, that's why he quit.
     
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    i know that, and i have made many posts arguing for that point.

    However, ZJH was not even given a chance coach in jr or 2nd squad team.
    I believed ZJH did a coaching stint in SG. If u dunno, there is a reason to explain how ronald susilo can beat LD in 04 OG, and it wasn't all due to LD cracking under pressure as most of u might think. To me, that is enough to say ZJH can be a very good coach, if not a very great coach.
     
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    Chicken RICE JIAN HUA

    Kekeke...

    His Kai fan really sucks... closed down in less than a year!

    The reason he doesnt coach China Badminton because it pay less than selling kai fan & too much politics.


    Yang2 discourage her daugthers to take up badminton, instead he encourages them to take up GOLF!

    Badminton doesnt pay! :cool:
     
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    u r talking from both side of your mouth: gai fan sucks and close down, and badminton coaching doesn't pay. Which one doesn't pay????

    badminton doesn't pay, why dont u ask morten frost, li mao, park joo bong?
    Maybe it doesn't pay for MAL coaches LOL Correct me if i'm wrong, i dont seem to bring up an ex-MAL pro who became a noted coach in foreign soil. Before u make fun of somebody's else chicken rice, look at yourself first LOL
     
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    There is a story why ZJH did not coach in China...just like Yang yang prefers to venture outside China.
    Another example...han Jian prefers to have his own academy in Malaysia than in China...there is a reason behind it...
     
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    he didn't quit.. he got fired
     
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    Thats right!!.......another drama behind PBSI....;);)
     
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    China politics

    China badminton is all politics...

    Parents need to pay to get their children admitted into top sports school unless those really talented few! :cool:
     
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    Indonesian Badminton names new coach for men's singles

    The Indonesian Badminton Association has named a former world champion as the new men's singles coach replacing Joko Supriyanto.

    Hendrawan, the world champion in 2001, said Monday he is ready to take his new job at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

    "Big challenges are facing us ahead and I have been asked to make things better than today," said Hendrawan, who was previously the coach for female shuttlers.

    "I will do my best," he said.

    Meanwhile, Joko said he resigned from the national training camp and refused a new job to coach female players.

    "I resigned because I didn't feel comfortable with my new job to coach women's singles," Joko was quoted by the national Antara news agency as saying.

    Source: Xinhua
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    pbsi say joko was fired to save face.
    even huangkwokhau hinted so....
    taufik-ist please don't try to deceive members here on serious matter or else u r losing what littlle credibility u have
     
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    Exactly but thats how China works... All about politics and getting on the right side of people for benefits.
    You can get filthy rich by doing nothing and be very poor even though you've done everything you can. It's all about connections in China ;).

    Like we crash into someones car, but the police tries to avoid doing anything because my friends parents are good beneficial friends with the head of the police office :p
     
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    please dont promote discussion of one sided politics when MAL badminton has politics too. If u still dont get it, china does this because THEY GOT TOO MANY EAGER STUDENTS This alot better than Malaysia situation where they are short in talent pool.:rolleyes:
     
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    Msia the same too... but not as bad as CHina...
    If you are good but noone "PROMOTE" you... dont dream to get into national team
     
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    i didn't deceive any mamber here :rolleyes:.. how about u ?:rolleyes:
     
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    how about tan kim her???...^^...but anyway...a good coach not always a good player...
     
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    I didnt know Joko was the head coach of INA for MS, and he certainly did a very poor job. None of his players (Sony/Taufik/Simon/Tommy) has stole any limelights from LD or LCW in the SS... so, it's fair that he should be fired :rolleyes:

    The same goes for Rashid :eek::cool: (i expect a backfired from this statement. haha)
     
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    agan...Joko was not head of coach...he was MS coach...pls note!
    Christian hadinata is still head of coach
     
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    Noted. I'm suprised that his head was not on the chopping board after 0-3 hammered by KOR in TC. If this is EPL, I'm sure... errr... ;)
     

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